3dmark01 vs 3dmark03

[||Console||]

Ok i have a question Why is there alot of people out there that beat me by @ least 4k points on 2001 but then i beat in 2003 ?
is it because im using driectx9 ? and they using 8 for the bench for 2001 ?

[garp]

Ok i have a question Why is there alot of people out there that beat me by @ least 4k points on 2001 but then i beat in 2003 ?
is it because im using driectx9 ? and they using 8 for the bench for 2001 ?

the same thing happens to me on two diffrent mobos and I have no idea why

[||Console||]

Yea there is a guy with the same MB and he beats me in 2001 and i have in in 03 . I want to know y Come on i know some of u OC gods know y . Fill us in

[-ASSASSIN-]

Ok i have a question Why is there alot of people out there that beat me by @ least 4k points on 2001 but then i beat in 2003 ?
is it because im using driectx9 ? and they using 8 for the bench for 2001 ?

It has to do with the fact that 3DMark 2k1 relies quite heavily on processor power, so while you might have a worse processor than your friend, but your gfx card compensates for that in 3Dmark 2003...

[Artagra]

Assasin has hit the nail on the head. With my system (3200xp/1024DDR400/x800Pro256), I can get over 11260 in 3d03 (no4 in SA), which puts me right near the top of the SA lists... however, in 3d01 I can't even make the top ten. Similarly, Firestar with his 6800GT can make 12k in 3d03 (no2 in SA), but has a terrible 3d01 score. Our Athlon XP CPU's hold us back in 3d01 because it's CPU limited.

Artagra

[||Console||]

Ok i can understand that but what about ppl with the same mother board and a 2500+

[po10cy]

Again, you might have the same mobo and cpu, but your graphics cards make a huge difference.

[||Console||]

Po10cy: If you read what ios posted above the question is y is there people with the same mother board and slower chips and same vid card that beat me in 2001 but i beat in 2003 . I was wondering y

[||Console||]

Artagra how do u get that high with only a 3200+ ?

[po10cy]

[Artagra]

I get such a high score in 3dmark due to two things:

1. An awesome 3d card (x800 Pro 256mb IceQ II) with a high OC (550/550)

2. A good benchmarking 'approach'

It's amazing what difference you can get through tweaking windows, tweaking drivers, closing processes, using different OS's, using different drivers, tweaking the bios and keeping your memory timings as tight as possible will make to your benchmark scores.

Policy: If I am understanding you correctly, your friend has the same motherboard, a slower CPU, the same video card but scores better in 2001 than you do, and worse in 2003?

Firstly, how identical are the boards? Same brand and chipset and model? Secondly, what CPU's have you guys both got? and what video card?

Finally, my guess is that it's a configuration and set up difference. His OS install may be 'cleaner' than yours, while your drivers may be more sorted. 3d01 is limited by your CPU subsystem - so on your PC, some config to do with that is slowing you down. While 3d03 is more balanced - so it's showing a more accurate score.

Artagra

[||Console||]

Artagra no it was me , that was stating the same mobo and vid card
both have same abit nf7s he has a 2600+ ( it isnt overclocked) i have a 2400+ mobile i steping @ 2.5 ghz
I have all the services that , i dont think i need turned off. I dont know much about oc memory know ne good sites so i can read up on it ?
Thx
just dont know wut cass lencey and that stuff means =)

[OnlyOneKenobi]

Guys you're also forgetting that 3dmark 01 is a DX 8 benchmark and 3dmark 03 is a DX 09 benchmark. If Console || has a Geforce FX 5200 and his buddy has a Geforce 4 ti, then the ti would beat the FX 5200 in 3dmark 2001 because of its clock speeds, but the FX5200 would beat the Geforce 4 in 3dmark 2003 because of its direct X 9 capabilities.

[Artagra]

Good point Kenobi.... although I think a ti4200 would kill the fx 5200 in 3dmark 03 aswell

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