WC: Tubing, quick fit connectors, valves, etc
WC: Tubing, quick fit connectors, valves, etc
A while back, I was looking for good quality 10mm OD tube. I contacted Arthur from Synapsys to see if he could help (still a big void left when he stepped down from the WC scene).
He put me onto Festo. Under Pneumatic and electric fittings you will find the available tubing and connectors. The PUN-H series of tubing is most suitable for water as a medium.
More info can be found at:
Plastic tubing (metric) 543Kb(pdf)
Festo has several branches throughout South Africa.
I ordered some tubing which should arrive on Monday/Tuesday. I ordered the 10mm OD (PUN-H-10,15, NT) at approx. R30 / meter. This tubing has an ID of 7 mm, and the recommended ID for 10 mm OD quit fit connectors are 8 mm.
You can also contact Festo and ask for their Festo Products 2007/2008 Digital catalog on DVD. It contains tons of info, as well as the ability to view the products with a 2D/3D CAD viewer (provided on the DVD).
He put me onto Festo. Under Pneumatic and electric fittings you will find the available tubing and connectors. The PUN-H series of tubing is most suitable for water as a medium.
More info can be found at:
Plastic tubing (metric) 543Kb(pdf)
Festo has several branches throughout South Africa.
I ordered some tubing which should arrive on Monday/Tuesday. I ordered the 10mm OD (PUN-H-10,15, NT) at approx. R30 / meter. This tubing has an ID of 7 mm, and the recommended ID for 10 mm OD quit fit connectors are 8 mm.
You can also contact Festo and ask for their Festo Products 2007/2008 Digital catalog on DVD. It contains tons of info, as well as the ability to view the products with a 2D/3D CAD viewer (provided on the DVD).
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When I bought my WC stuff from Synapsys in 2006, WaterChill 10mm OD Tube worked out about R94 (excl. shipping) per meter. Performance-PCs do not have true metric sized tubing.
I once bought some generic 10 mm OD PVC tube at about R10 per meter. The problem was that the wall was too flimsy and the push fittings were not able to bite properly and seal, causing a leak.
I once bought some generic 10 mm OD PVC tube at about R10 per meter. The problem was that the wall was too flimsy and the push fittings were not able to bite properly and seal, causing a leak.
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Very true. With Arthur, I told him what my PC setup was, and he made a recommendation, and gave me a quote. When I received the goods from him, it was simply a case of installing and connecting everything.DAE_JA_VOO wrote:Oh, no no, what i meant was that if you do ALL your shopping from there, you won't have problems.
Exactly, like you say, you know very little about water coolingDust wrote:Yes it fit" on you barbs, but Festo products have the best quick connectors.
I don't know WC, so, tell me, what hols the pipe on the barb?
If I wanted to, I could use nothing to hold the tubing securely onto the barbs, and there are no leaks.
However, since anything could happen, and accidents happen, there is nothing better than a worm clamp for making sure the tubing doesn't come off until I want it to.
So tell you what, if you ever decide to watercool your pc, and don't wish to ask the advice of us who've actually got loads of experience in WC (including but not limited to Mike, Ettienne, Rob, Byron, etc) you can go blow your budget on R30/m tubing and expensive connectors, and we'll use what we know works and have enough of a budget for decent blocks, rads, res's and pumps.
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From my (limited) experience, tube wall thickness is not such a big issue when the tube goes over a barb (as compared with a quick fit type connector). I experienced only two leaks: once when my res cracked, and with quick fit connectors.viceroy wrote:If I wanted to, I could use nothing to hold the tubing securely onto the barbs, and there are no leaks.
That is good advice for anyone new to WC. In my setup, everything is 10 mm OD (except for the 2 Koolance HD-50-L06 Hard Drive Coolers) with quick fit connectors. In hindsight, what I would have done before contacting Arthur for a quote, would be to find out:viceroy wrote:ask the advice of us who've actually got loads of experience in WC (including but not limited to Mike, Ettienne, Rob, Byron, etc)
- which tubing size is the easiest to get hold of, and works the best
which is better/cheaper to use, barbs or quick fit
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Well at the time that Arthur was still dealing, he seemed to push the Koolance kits quite a bit, since they're pretty easy to setup. Heck, Even I started out with a Koolance Exos Al.
Tubing thickness, isn't too much of a factor when fitting on barbs, but it IS A HUGE factor when trying to route tubing around your case. Thin tube kinks easily and a kink can mean death for a WC system.
Quick fits are nice, but even so, they do leak tiny amounts when connecting or removing.
Barbs are more pemanent, but loads safer in my view.
What I did when looking for local tubing was to take a small sample of tubing I needed, as well as a connector, and go to various pet shops and Builders Warehouses to see what they have.
I did find some tubing from a local petshop but I found better stuff at Builders Warehouse. They now tend to stock everything from the cheap rubbish all the way through to the really nice thick walled stuff.
Cheap too.
If however you want the real deal, order enough Tygon tubing in the size you need from Performance PCs.
Tubing thickness, isn't too much of a factor when fitting on barbs, but it IS A HUGE factor when trying to route tubing around your case. Thin tube kinks easily and a kink can mean death for a WC system.
Quick fits are nice, but even so, they do leak tiny amounts when connecting or removing.
Barbs are more pemanent, but loads safer in my view.
What I did when looking for local tubing was to take a small sample of tubing I needed, as well as a connector, and go to various pet shops and Builders Warehouses to see what they have.
I did find some tubing from a local petshop but I found better stuff at Builders Warehouse. They now tend to stock everything from the cheap rubbish all the way through to the really nice thick walled stuff.
Cheap too.
If however you want the real deal, order enough Tygon tubing in the size you need from Performance PCs.
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With the incorrect sized tubing they do (and did in my case)Dust wrote:Festo Quick connectors DO NOT leak! Period!
Don't get me wrong, with the right sized tubing, they will not leak, and I have had no other problems
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