Hman wrote:The Xbox uses DirectX yes, but on the 360 it was DX9 most games on PC need to be on DX10 or 11. Also the 360's processor differs wildly from x86. That's why porting takes long.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Hman wrote:running Mantle on it will work if the API comes with the game as it bypasses DX completely,
Slam and DUNK.....
Hman wrote:that is unless MS blocks it somehow.
DENIED! Somehow I don't see MS allowing 3RD party APIs to work on their hardware. Lets be honest, MS doesn't play well with others unless its on THEIR terms.
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Hman wrote:But I can see two reasons for MS to allow Mantle to run:
1. They are reliant on AMD for their hardware.
2. If they don't allow it the PS will have the upper hand performance wise.
As much as I would like to believe this to be enough to sway MS, history tells me otherwise.
1. Web standards (which MS STILL does not adhere to)
2. OpenGL vs DirectX
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If Mantle takes off, Ubuntu will gain a lot of patrons. Don't think Microsoft wants that.
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@AMDRadeon wrote:Mantle is NOT in consoles. What Mantle creates for the PC is a development environment that's *similar* to the consoles, which already offer low-level APIs, close-to-metal programming, easier development and more (vs. the complicated PC environment). By creating a more console-like developer environment, Mantle: improves time to market; reduces development costs; and allows for considerably more efficient rendering, improving performance for gamers. The console connection is made because next-gen uses Radeon, so much of the programming they're doing for the consoles are already well-suited to a modern Radeon architecture on the desktop; that continuum is what allows Mantle to exist. ^RH
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Nah, I'm sure the low level API they have on consoles is just superficially different. They wouldn't outright say it because MS and Sony are their customers too.
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I disagree. Titan is heavily over priced but it set the bar for the new single gpus. An OCed 780 can reach its speed and the 290x now manages it to. Pricing on both cards are a good deal less. Looking to the future, we need some serious tech development to get to that 60fps with full detail at 4k. But it will get there.
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LOL. That's the equivalent of calling the Titanic a minor boating incident.
StarBound wrote:It set the bar for the new single gpus.
I am afraid it didn't.
With a name like "Titan" and at the price it was being sold at, it should have been the faster than anything for at least 2 generations. Instead, it BARELY keeps up with current gen cards.
It is a JOKE, plain and simple.
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GreyWolf wrote:With a name like "Titan" and at the price it was being sold at, it should have been the faster than anything for at least 2 generations. Instead, it BARELY keeps up with current gen cards.
At the price no but what its performance is yes. It should have blown anything out of the water, it should have been that 690gtx and then some with more memory and slightly better benchmarks.
Still from a performance aspect it held the top spot. Now AMDs lower priced contender that outshines it.