X850 XT PE IS OUT !!!

Gino · Post by **Gino** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:11

Hey! Just wanted to let all ATI FANS know that the First X850 are for sale from next week on! Kick - bottom

Take a look at this German Magazine , they got benchmarx

http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tes ... index.html

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:18

Ekz kgan niej djie German pratz niej! Sjien ekz kgan hom niej eenz spelt niej...

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:24

See : http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-1249-x-x-x

Gino · Post by **Gino** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:25

http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tes ... ndex2.html

take a look here,, don`t need any german for that!!!!!!!! what do you think

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:29

Gino wrote:http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tes ... ndex2.html

take a look here,, don`t need any german for that!!!!!!!! what do you think

It's less than 300 points faster in 3DMark03 & less than 200 in 3DMark05.
No thanx. If you don't have a X800XTPE yet and your looking for 1 the get it.

I wanna see the SA retail prices 1st.

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:32

PS : Germany must not have any 6800 Ultra's.

Only and idiot would compare a X850XTPE with a 6800 GT. This is beyond me...

Gino · Post by **Gino** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:41

Don`t be too hard on them, take it that way now the 850XT PE will replace the X800 XT and the X800Pro will move into Mainstream. So then it is 6600GT vs. X800Pro and 6800Ultra vs X850XT PE

I would say 1:0 for ATi

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 03 Dec 2004, 00:50

Another PS: Don't you guys see the irony in ATI :

- Now also caught optimizing drivers for the 3DMark series...
- Now also switching 2 double slot solutions...
- Now also requiring higher PSU's...
- Now also working on SLI interface...
- Now also using bridge chipped PCI-E & not native solutions...
- Now also developing Hypermemory 2 cut production costs...

Whilst badmouthing nVidia in press conferences & interviews in mags & all over the web for doing these exact same things prior?

Even though they currently outperform their nVidia counterparts they manage so barely.

Just who's the actual leader here?

& no I'm not starting a war here. I cannot be the only 1 realizing this.

Gino · Post by **Gino** » 03 Dec 2004, 01:00

But does this realy matter? In the end its what you get for the money!

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 03 Dec 2004, 01:11

Gino wrote:But does this realy matter? In the end its what you get for the money!

True but still hey... Why are these oke's always babling about the other. Just give us as consumers what you have 2 offer & shut the f*** up.

I'm angry now for seeing another site comparing a top-end ATI 2 it's lesser nVidia counterpart. I've seen a few guys doing this by now. It's ridiculous. If you cannot do an apples for apples comparison don't do it period.

halo · Post by **halo** » 03 Dec 2004, 08:25

ill have to agree with Rayne. Dont get me wrong, im an Ati fan all the way, but i find it very stupid for a company to take the moral high ground and drill the competion for doing things while they themselves are doing the same thing!

I always thought of this battle as a waste of time... lets be honest, who here will not go out and bya Nvidia card if they make the fastest and greatest card in the world? ill tell you how many ZERO, NULL, NO ONE. why? because in the end of the day we are all consumers and as consumers we are always looking for the best deal. Ati have being giving us that but are now become the next Nvidia. i think they need to stop for a moment and see what they did over the last 3 years and do the same!

Nerevar · Post by **Nerevar** » 03 Dec 2004, 08:56

ATI vs Nvidia....... ATI WINS!!!!

Fishzn · Post by **Fishzn** » 04 Dec 2004, 16:16

Then you have a rather moronic statement made by Nerevar here! Nerevar tell me what goes on in ur head when you feel the need to write those comments?

I am totally at a loss with regards to fanboi's, no basis whatsoever yet they make statements which are so bold!

Gino put it the best so far, and its a way everyone should look at things:

But does this realy matter? In the end its what you get for the money!

The decision on which GFX card is better should be made using merit and that cards respective performance with regards to price otherwise please STFU.

feo · Post by **feo** » 04 Dec 2004, 16:25

Fishzn wrote:Then you have a rather moronic statement made by Nerevar here! Nerevar tell me what goes on in ur head when you feel the need to write those comments?

I think healthy rivalry in the end benifits the consumer so we should all stop whining and let ATI and nVidia get on with their business.

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 04 Dec 2004, 21:42

Here's the best preview I browsed accross thus far. See:
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njk3LDE=

If you were to be given a “blind gaming test” between the X850XT-PE and X800XT-PE, we think that it would be near impossible to tell any difference between them based on gaming experience.

The ATI Radeon X850XT-PE isn’t a viable upgrade for those that already have X800XT’s or X800XT-PE’s, even if it was an AGP card. In fact it seems to be what the X800XT-PE should have been if it would have ever had any real retail availability. However, if you are moving to a new PCI-Express platform, and want the best from ATI, the X850XT-PE will obviously fit the bill.

Make no bones about it, the X850XT-PE can easily best the NVIDIA 6800Ultra in many of today’s latest 3D gaming titles, and Catalyst driver maturation is evident in these latest evaluations. And while it does fall a bit behind in DOOM 3, it hardly delivers anything close to what could be described as “bad” performance. Still, at a suggested retail price of US$549, the Radeon X850XT-PE should give you nothing less than the ultimate gaming experience in every gaming title.

Fishzn · Post by **Fishzn** » 04 Dec 2004, 21:52

AFAIK the X800XL is the card to watch from the batch released and with RRP of $350 i would be watching that as a winner all round!

Read the link:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2290&p=8

Rather interesting and insightful by Anandtech!

Mephesto-AF- · Post by **Mephesto-AF-** » 05 Dec 2004, 10:59

Whatever!! IMHO these cards are too pricey anyway. I will wait untill they are cheeper and then get one. I like ATI, but will take the Nvidia card it it is cheaper. The main thing I am looking for is 16 Pipelines on the card.

Meph out!!

Nerevar · Post by **Nerevar** » 05 Dec 2004, 14:46

Why on earth do you want to upgrade to a X800 or a 6800 agp....... Wait and buy a new pc with pci express and a 64bit cpu!

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 05 Dec 2004, 14:51

Nerevar wrote:Why on earth do you want to upgrade to a X800 or a 6800 agp....... Wait and buy a new pc with pci express and a 64bit cpu!

I agree but not even then. PCI-E is not that much faster. Both the X800XT / PE & 6800 Ultra's will keep you happy well into 2006. PCI-E will be more evolved by then & Intel will stock their own 64bit CPU's. Which already speculated 2 give AMD a run for it's money.

Nerevar · Post by **Nerevar** » 05 Dec 2004, 14:54

Remember, when Nforce 4 is out and running and ATI also has a new PCI express line up of cards to go with the Nforce4 and Athlon 64..... = big performance!!!!!

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 05 Dec 2004, 14:58

Nerevar wrote:Remember, when Nforce 4 is out and running and ATI also has a new PCI express line up of cards to go with the Nforce4 and Athlon 64..... = big performance!!!!!

True. But check hardocp news (saw it roughly 2 odd weeks ago). Intel is said 2 work on a monster CPU. Their boards will also sport nForce5.

Nerevar · Post by **Nerevar** » 05 Dec 2004, 15:00

But ATI and AMD seems to work well.........

I think in the future its going to be ATI and AMD vs Intel and Nvidia.....

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 05 Dec 2004, 15:02

Nerevar wrote:But ATI and AMD seems to work well.........

I think in the future its going to be ATI and AMD vs Intel and Nvidia.....

Let's see. I've never used an AMD yet. Might get 1 when FX prices drop below R4000.00.

Nerevar · Post by **Nerevar** » 05 Dec 2004, 15:04

I see big things for AMD and ATI in 2005, with HL2, ATI saw what it means to have a game developed for their Radeon cards.....

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 05 Dec 2004, 15:11

Nerevar wrote:I see big things for AMD and ATI in 2005, with HL2, ATI saw what it means to have a game developed for their Radeon cards.....

Oh yes. Marketing @ it's best. You know Valve will be making a few HL2 spin-offs for top-end ATI cards though? I think maybe the upcoming R5** series. The PlayStation3 will be using ATI R520 something. More advanced than our current X850XTPE's. So for a mth or 2 we'll be left behind by our concole counterparts.