The difference between Hackers and Crackers!

Celebhir · Post by **Celebhir** » 15 Jul 2002, 21:22

I´ve read alot of material on this and found one guy, in addition to the PCF columnist Christian, who point out that hackers are "good" and crackers are "bad" (generally speaking). The guy I read about said that Hackers don´t take fake aliasis and code and hack only for the betterment of mankind and focus on actual programming and problem solving so that in the future these problems do not have to be solved. They also advocate the free use of there solutions. But as for crackers, they merely crack into systems for the detrement of the other party or for their personal conquests. Intresting hey? What do you guys have to say about this?

donjarrod · Post by **donjarrod** » 17 Jul 2002, 09:48

WOW! I find it so incredible that you only heard two guys say this.What material have you been reading??? I do agree that Hackers are good And crackers are Bad, but i do not agree about handles. Hackers can have handles, it does not mean they are hiding behind it. Its a handle, its really just a matter of preferance. Hackers are guys with a superior knowledge about computers but use it benefit a system. These guys push it to the max, testing(exploit) every line of code, whereas a cracker would hide this bug/exploit to benifit himself. Both have a great knowledge of computers and use the same technoques, its just that differ in their reasons and what they do with the knowledge.Just a matter of ethics really. Almost every person who knows about this topic will give their own opinions but do yourself a favor! decide for yourself, whos telling the truth!
 
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snipeers · Post by **snipeers** » 15 Sep 2002, 15:48

A HACKER IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A HYPOCRITE CRACKER. <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_cool.gif"> <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_cool.gif"> <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_cool.gif">

HXL · Post by **HXL** » 15 Sep 2002, 20:33

I totally agree with you snipeers!

donjarrod · Post by **donjarrod** » 01 Oct 2002, 09:15

that is such bull! The Hacker is not a hypocrite. The ****** companys that charge you so much for things that should be dirt cheap are the hypocrites. Hackers are the superheros of cyberspace. They have an extra ability compared to naormal users, crackers are the super villians. You obviously believe too much of what is in the movies. Hackerdom is about freedom. freedom of information, when someone breaks into your little beige box at home, prying into your email, THAT is a cracker. It is all about ethics. Dont confuse the two out of ignorance. Go and find out about real hackers instead of watching swordfish. If you do , you would realise that you wouldnt be posting replies on the internet if it were not for them. Hackers created the internet. Hackers made the internet into a concept that was about freedom of information. Knowledge is a weapon, and like all weapons, it is only as dangerous as the person behind the weapon!! Do some research coz that is a big insult!

snipeers · Post by **snipeers** » 01 Oct 2002, 18:42

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 On 2002-10-01 09:15, donjarrod wrote:
 that is such bull! The Hacker is not a hypocrite. The bull**** companys that charge you so much for things that should be dirt cheap are the hypocrites.</BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
 so bill gates and microsoft for that matter.
 <TABLE BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD>Quote:<HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><BLOCKQUOTE>
 Hackers are the superheros of cyberspace. They have an extra ability compared to naormal users, crackers are the super villians.</BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE> so hackers is like Superman who have x-ray vision to see loopholes in computer security systems and crackers is like Joker who always cracks jokes.
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 You obviously believe too much of what is in the movies. Hackerdom is about freedom. freedom of information, when someone breaks into your little beige box at home, prying into your email, THAT is a cracker. It is all about ethics. Dont confuse the two out of ignorance. Go and find out about real hackers instead of watching swordfish.</BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>sorry to disappoint you but halle barry is not my favorite actress
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 If you do , you would realise that you wouldnt be posting replies on the internet if it were not for them. Hackers created the internet. Hackers made the internet into a concept that was about freedom of information. Knowledge is a weapon, and like all weapons, it is only as dangerous as the person behind the weapon!! Do some research coz that is a big insult!
 </BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>okey enough is enough does all your sayings only means that if a hacker hacks to your computer system its okey-its ethical coz he´s a hacker whereas if a cracker cracks your system its unethical!!! i dont think so - lets be fair about it... they only differ to me in the sense that crackers have more balls to say that they crack and destroy your system whereas a hacker would just shame away as if they dont do anything bad. im not talking about textbook panorama here but the real cyberworld. <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_mad.gif">

donjarrod · Post by **donjarrod** » 14 Oct 2002, 13:18

The concept of hackers has been influenced by many crackers calling themselves hackers. A hacker tests the vulnerablity of the system, not for personal gain but for the betterment of the system. In every field there are people that push limits to their max and then beyond. Hackers are these pioneers that Allow cyberspace to Progress! If we did not have people who tested for bugs we would be stuck on a system that didnt allow for advancement. It is at the end of a day, an ethical question. A gun is only as dangerous as the user behind it! <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_evil.gif">

nutz_inc · Post by **nutz_inc** » 02 Nov 2002, 21:25

Yo! not all crackers are that evil! <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_evil.gif"> Some are people who stand up for themselves, others and there believes.
 @ 1 insedent one cracker hacked a satanic website and distroyd it. <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_eek.gif"> others teamed together to distroy a bad, bad mans computer.
 Think a bit more about this <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_confused.gif">
 
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blessed_confusion_reigns · Post by **blessed_confusion_reigns** » 03 Nov 2002, 10:59

hmm i dont want to say that i support it, but what business is it of some bunch of kids to hack and destroy a satanistic website?
 
 there is lots of stuff that comes with being a *democracy* such as free speech. Satanism is a system of beliefs that poeple can choose to follow because we live in a democracy.
 
 I will have to say hackers = people who are doing it because it is what they love, they are helping in thier own little way. crackers = bored computer science students, vandals . . . . cracking is like internet graffiti. hacking is like . . . internet abstract modern art. <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif"> you dont have to like it!

donjarrod · Post by **donjarrod** » 13 Nov 2002, 11:03

i like that response. And tho i know freedom of speech and all, I donts giv a *****s! Down with the Satanic website!...Down with child pornography...send them to jail so they can deal with the punishment, i f u know wat i mean. They dont call it soap on the rope for nuthin! Like i sed, these are just generalised terms, today, the distinction between the two(hack & crack) is becoming slimmer with more grey hats popping up.

blessed_confusion_reigns · Post by **blessed_confusion_reigns** » 13 Nov 2002, 19:34

Im with you on the down wit kiddie porn, but in terms of the law, satanism is perfectly legal, even if it is a bit weird.
 
 Heck, democracy has its flaws ppl . . <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_cry.gif">

SynthetiX · Post by **SynthetiX** » 10 Dec 2002, 14:54

Yeah cracking is bad, but I think it`s fun aswell.
 People just like destroying stuff sometimes.
 Why else in games can you destroy almost everything in the map?
 Why would they create it like that if there weren`t people that just destroy things for pleasure.
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 But then the crackers could also get a job as demolitions expert. <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_lol.gif">

DarkSkies · Post by **DarkSkies** » 11 Dec 2002, 08:29

The descriptions used here of hackers and crackers aren´t right. A hacker is someone who hacks into computer systems through security loopholes. A cracker on the otherhand is someone who circumvents copy protection and registration schemes by cracking the executables or writing key generators.
 
 While it might sound like the two are related they are not, besides the fact that both are illegal.

SynthetiX · Post by **SynthetiX** » 11 Dec 2002, 10:14

Not legal , but fun still.......like some other things in life. <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif">

Post by **Synkronos** » 13 Mar 2003, 17:21

DarkSkies is right. Hackers attacks systems, crackers attack programs. There is nothing about intention in the definition at all.