Nokia 1 - 0 Apple.

[Hman]

I bet hamin will love this.

In a big win for Nokia, Apple has agreed to pay a one-time settlement and continuous licensing fees, bring an end to a massive two-year battle between two titans of the wireless industry.

Sauce

[KALSTER]

Hahahaha! Screw you Apple!

[DAE_JA_VOO]

I don't think Apple cares much. Nokia needs every penny and every win they can get right now, because they're not really getting anywhere at the moment. Symbian is dying, Windows Phone certainly isn't changing the world, and Apple is growing immensely.

[hamin_aus]

Yeah, right now Apple is on top of the world and they can afford to keep paying huge sums of money everytime they get caught ripping off the competition.

Microsoft were in the same boat just a few years ago.
The problem is, can Apple keep innovating and staying ahead of the game WITHOUT stealing tech and ideas? Because if they start getting caught every time they do it, the bottomless pit of money will soon dry up...

They probably can't, but they have found a niche market in sheeple with more disposable income than sense. M$ nevere had this, they were always the bad guy, so as soon as another company was able to deliver "competitive" products, all the cool kids left and took their money with them. And rightly so at the time.

But times have changed.
How long before people who worship Apple wake up and realise that the company that was once the scrappy underdog with some clever innovations is now every bit the soulless, thieving corporate profit monger that they professed to despise all those years ago?

Maybe a lot of them already have. But coming out of their stupor they may have realised that they have already invested so much time and money in the iScrewYou with it's inescapable knotting's of tie-in's and proprietorial exclusions that the cost, and more importantly, effort required required to move over to another product is not worth it.
Mission accomplished Apple - well played.

I saw the writing on the wall back when Apple switched to Intel hardware. They saved bucket loads of money and were able to pass those savings on to their loyal customers. Only they didn't.

[DAE_JA_VOO]

Yeah, right now Apple is on top of the world and they can afford to keep paying huge sums of money everytime they get caught ripping off the competition.

I don't want to sound like a chop, but your sarcasm isn't that far off from reality. Apple is worth as much as Microsoft, HP, and Dell combined. Apple's market cap is clocking in at about $320bn. So $300 mil doesn't mean jack to them.

I'm not rejecting the fact that they copy other technologies that are older - that's a pretty obvious observation. I would, however, say that Apple pulls much of what they copy off a whole lot better than the competition. The concept of the iCloud is HARDLY a new concept, but nobody can pull it off like Apple does. Look at Skydrive. It's something like 25GB of free online storage from MS, isn't it? Apple's offering is 5GB. But is there a way for me to "Save as" on my MICROSOFT OS to my MICROSOFT skydrive? No. What the heck, MS?

But yeah, I agree with some of what you say. All that junk about Apple users beeing sheep and stupid and blah blah blah - don't agree with any of that. I'm starting to think that that's a silly mindset that "PC" users have because they refuse to accept that Apple products are actually pretty good.

[JollyJamma]

I don't think Apple cares much. Nokia needs every penny and every win they can get right now, because they're not really getting anywhere at the moment. Symbian is dying, Windows Phone certainly isn't changing the world, and Apple is growing immensely.

Symbian is dead-Nokia has moved to Win7 mobile. A move they may regret but we will see.

If Steve Jobs reads this thread he might tell you that you are holding an opinion in the wrong way...Sorry i won't ever do that again.

[Prime]

I don't think Apple cares much. Nokia needs every penny and every win they can get right now, because they're not really getting anywhere at the moment. Symbian is dying, Windows Phone certainly isn't changing the world, and Apple is growing immensely.

Android has grown faster Dae

And Dropbox FTW

[Sojourn]

Apple is worth as much as Microsoft, HP, and Dell combined.

Incorrect.

[DAE_JA_VOO]

ndroid has grown faster Dae

I know, but we're not talking about Android, are we?

And Dropbox FTW

Yeah. Isn't that nuts? The fact that Dropbox is so tightly integrated in my OS, but Skydrive is nowhere to be seen.

Apple is worth as much as Microsoft, HP, and Dell combined.

Incorrect.

With all due respect

If you look at how Apple fares on the public markets today, compared to other tech powerhouses, you’ll notice that the Cupertino computer giant is currently valued at roughly $301 billion, which is close to the sum of the market cap of three of its closest rivals: Microsoft (~$200.3 billion), Hewlett-Packard (~$72.8 billion) and Dell (~$29.3 billion).

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Now if you're saying I'm wrong because of the $1.4bn difference, then sure, I'm wrong. But That's kind of irrelevant. Apple is worth $301bn, and those three companies together are at $302.4bn. Like I said, this isn't the point.

[hamin_aus]

I'm not rejecting the fact that they copy other technologies that are older - that's a pretty obvious observation. I would, however, say that Apple pulls much of what they copy off a whole lot better than the competition.

Well, their products are generally more aesthetically pleasing that the competition - and more aggressively marketed.
If that constitutes better, then you are right. But we are both too long in this game to argue differences of opinion

The concept of the iCloud is HARDLY a new concept, but nobody can pull it off like Apple does. Look at Skydrive. It's something like 25GB of free online storage from MS, isn't it? Apple's offering is 5GB. But is there a way for me to "Save as" on my MICROSOFT OS to my MICROSOFT skydrive?

http://mintywhite.com/vista/save-docume ... ffice-2010

u mad?

All that junk about Apple users beeing sheep and stupid and blah blah blah - don't agree with any of that. I'm starting to think that that's a silly mindset that "PC" users have because they refuse to accept that Apple products are actually pretty good.

I NEVER said Apples offering were not good. Their products are good. Their products would pwn if they were competitively priced. I just cant justify paying up to twice as much for an Apple device as I would for a similarly speced and functional device of almost any other brand.
Now you can by all means. But I will reserve the right to have an opinion about that decision.

As for Apple users being sheeple. Most of them are. Just look at the iPhones campaign...

If you don't have an iPhone.... you don't have an iPhone

That basically says to it's "client-base" aka sheeple:
Hey *********, go and buy this new Apple product right now or be the only one of your friends without it.

And that is the major selling point of all Apple devices. Do not think just because you base your preference for Apple on logical reasoning that everyone else does too. Most of them just buy what everyone else buys and then sit around having a big circle-jerk about how great their phones ar...
I mean, herpiddy derp, it's like an iPod that can make phone calls.... how AWESOME is that?!?!?!! Hello? HELLO???? damn, lost my signall again...

[ryanrich]

Herpiddy derp.

[JollyJamma]

I just cant justify paying up to twice as much for an Apple device as I would for a similarly speced and functional device of almost any other brand.

+1

At the end of the day an iPhone is just a phone like any other.

I like Apple products but, especially the iPad, I can't justify them sometimes.