Take Down CyberGames! :twisted:

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 11:44

This is a call to everyone that reads this to rise up together for the greater good of man, for E3, and for the Cheese.

Cybergames has, for the last four years, been aiding in the steady rise in the price of PC games. By selling masses of copied and cracked games to the unwitting South African public, we as consumers of the original products are forced to compensate by paying higher prices for our software.

I have emailed Cybergames (My letters can be seen under the topic: For all you software pirates) as well as reporting them to the BSA(Business Software Alliance). Thus far Cybergames has been less than forthcoming with explainations about their activities, they also claim it's all legitimate.

I propose that we all email Cybergames with our enquiries; Why do they have cracks on their CDs, how are they able to charge less than half the price of the originals, how have they managed to remain open this long?
We must also report their activities to the BSA, ensuring that they take notice of this serious problem.

Here are their contact details:
CyberGames: postmaster@cybergames.co.za
BSA: www.bsa.co.za

Lets take 'em down.

Post your emails and their replies here.

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 11:46

Power to the people

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 11:51

IS fine by your standards

"Dear Cybergames
I was just wondering are games 100%legiment which means do they run without the "patch" with the cds in the drive I purchase C&C gzh and I tried it and low and behold it didnot work with out the patch\crack

Yours sincerely

Mr pilkington"

ps. I didn';t puchased anything from them but my friend did and it is true the games dont run with the disk in the drive with ut the crack as the orignals fo

Law · Post by **Law** » 25 Mar 2004, 11:53

Viva la Revolution

Post by **OnlyOneKenobi** » 25 Mar 2004, 11:59

Here's my mail to Cybergames

Dear sir

I stumbled upon your site by chance and I am amazed at the variety of PC games you have at such incredible prices! They are competitive even with the cheapest fleamarkets ( which sell illegal copied games, btw. )! I am curious as to how you can manage to sell games at such low prices? Why are your rates based on the amount of CD's each game takes up? Why is it that you have games for sale that have not even been released by their official distrubutors yet?

Thank you for your time

Francois Linde

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 11:59

I just filed a piracy complaint

Dear BSA

I wished file a piracy file agianst a company known as Cybergames. As their games are underpriced and they have cracks on them and do not work with the disc in the drive with out the cracks being placed in the folder

Yours sincerely

is this fine

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:10

WHOOHOOOO!!!

Together we shall destroy the mighty giant! Nice work amdretard! Very subtle OnlyOne.

IS fine by your standards

Absolutely! I have no standards, we need all the help we can get. Thanks.

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:24

We must topple the illegal world after this it the drug trade(joking I like living)

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:26

Post by **Y0da** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:34

Here's my contribution...

Dear sir(s),

I wish to inform you that the readers of a popular computer magazine have decided to take a serious stand against companies and individuals that are distributiong illegal software. Based on your prices and your means of distribution, and also the fact that many readers have bought games from you that needed cracked .exe's, we have reached the unfortunate conclusion that you are indeed distributing illegal software. Although many people buy these games from you out of ignorance, there are a lot of gamers in South Africa, who realizes the detrimental effect pirating has on the game industry. If however yopu feel that these allegations are unjustified we would like to here your explanation on these matters.

Please be advised that your activities have been reported to the proper authorities.

Kind Regards,

(My Detail)

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:45

Very Very good y0da
Come where are the rest we have only got 3 people we need more
Yes the majority of you have piracy on your machines but they wont find out which they wont so e-mail those pirates do it for cheese

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:47

Kick bottom you did, Yes!

Post by **OnlyOneKenobi** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:52

Here's the reply from Cybergames

Hi Mr Francois,
We import these games ourselves and they r the same games as in the flea
markets.
We send the titles by speed services and you collect them from your post
office counter.
The only difference from the box version is that u cannot play our games
over the internet.
Thank you for your interest

Regards,
www.cybergames.co.za

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 12:54

They have replied

Hi,
all out games are imported from overseas and you cannot play them over theinternet.
And in most of them there are patch files to run the game.
Thank you for your interest.

Regards,
www.cybergames.co.za

One thing which really confusing me is that where did they get the internet part from
quite funny actually[/quote]

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:00

Why dont we ask them why we cant play them over the internet

OBi why dont you do it

i have

Dear Cybergames

Why cant we play them over the internet and why do we need patchs if the games are legal

regards
customer

Post by **OnlyOneKenobi** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:00

amdretard wrote:They have replied

Hi,
all out games are imported from overseas and you cannot play them over theinternet.
And in most of them there are patch files to run the game.
Thank you for your interest.

Regards,
www.cybergames.co.za

One thing which really confusing me is that where did they get the internet part from
quite funny actually

[/quote]

Probably for games like Warcraft or Diablo which require Battlenet for online play. Obviously pirated versions aren't going to run on battlenet.

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:02

It really hacks me off how slimy they are, acting completely innocent like we are complete morons!

And in most of them there are patch files to run the game.

Patch file?!!!

How stupid do they think we are?

The only difference from the box version is that u cannot play our games
over the internet.

Gee, I wonder why that is?

Maybe it's because IT'S NOT AN ORIGINAL!!!

Guys, write back asking why you can't play online if the games are legit.

They've blocked my address, so I can't mail them anymore.

amdretard · Post by **amdretard** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:04

already have but we need more

Post by **OnlyOneKenobi** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:06

I thought I would be diplomatic and send some constructive advice...

My reply :

Thank you for replying to my queries, I have some concerns though :

If your games are the same version as flea market games, then they are illegal and the authorities will shut your business down and probably slap you with a hefty fine, or even a jail term.

Would it not be a better idea to reform Cybergames into a company that deals with legal merchandise rather than pirated software? There's a lot of interest in games and I think you would do well if you sold the box version of the games you carry. Plus as an added bonus you wouldn't have people complaining about problems that arise from having cracked games and you also would not have the authorities breathing down your neck.

It's just a thought. Use it, don't use it, it's your choice.

Post by **Scarlet_Spider** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:07

I'm tired of this guys weasel like responses. I sent the folowing message with a subject of "Yes or No..."

Dear Sir,

Please could you write me response to the following question: Are the games distributed by Cybergames pirated or not?
An answer would be appreciated.

Regards,

Jared Krause

now hopefully the beating around the bush will come to an end...

Post by **Y0da** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:13

Here's the reply I got...

WE ARE LEGALLY IMPORTING THESE GAMES, AND DECLERING THEM AS CD ROM GAMES,
PAYING CUSTOMS DUTIES, VAT, FREIGHT CHARGES AND FORWARDERS FEES FOR THEM. IF
THERE WAS A PROBLEM ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THE PRODUCT, SURELY WE WOULD NOT
BE ABLE TO OPERATE OPENLY AND OFFICIALLY OVER THE INTERNET FOR THE LAST FOUR
YEARS.

THIS IS CALLED PARALLEL IMPORTS AND NATURALLY IT BOTHERS THE CERTAIN
MONOPOLY TYCOONS.
THEREFORE FROM TIME TO TIME WE ALSO RECEIVE ACCUSATIONS IN THESE LINES BUT
WE REPLY TO THEM SAME AS ABOVE AND THEY DONT BOTHER US FOR A WHILE AGAIN,
UNTIL NEXT TIME AROUND.

IF YOU STILL HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF OUR ACTIVITIES, YOU ARE
WELCOME TO GET MORE PROFESSIONAL EXPLANATION FROM THE ATTORNEYS, A. GROBLER,
PHONE NO. 011-3942736.

WE HOPE YOU FIND THIS EXPLANATION SATISFOCTORY.

BEST REGARDS
CYBERGAMES

We didn't say they are IMPORTING it illegally, did we?

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:13

OnlyOne wrote:I thought I would be diplomatic and send some constructive advice...

Composed as always OnlyOne, very clever.

It's almost as though we are playing good cop - bad cop.

now hopefully the beating around the bush will come to an end...

Good idea, but they seem to think they are dealing with idiots whom they can just brush aside. I bet their response is as evasive as ever. Have you reported them?

Post by **Scarlet_Spider** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:23

AngryRabbit wrote:Have you reported them?

nope - I am almost sure that the BSA will be aware of these people - in my opinion the best way to go about this is just to irritate the **** out of them like we are doing - they must have been through this drill a hundred times aready !!

If i dont get a response by tomorrow at the latest i will report them to the BSA and probably drop a line to piracy@microsoft.com - above all I think microsoft will be able to make the most of this - oodles of cash and a name to defend as opposed to us who are really just making this guys day a bit sh!tty.

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:23

Y0da wrote:We didn't say they are IMPORTING it illegally, did we?

That is the exact response I eventually got before they blocked my email.

Lets hope that BSA does something about all this!

Post by **Cameron_Losco** » 25 Mar 2004, 13:24

As you all know I hate piracy and to be honest I'm very proud of all of you for taking a stand against it.

Heres to all of you!!