Someone obviously let freelurker go near the cable. 'Nuff said.KALSTER wrote:The question is: How and WHY did it fail?
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LOL People go so awol when stuff like this happens. Chill out people, not like it goes down every day and i'm sure they are trying everything in the power to get it fixed asap. Accept it, nothing you can do about it.
It's like "OMFG NO! my torrents won't download!" - End of the world!
Take this time to browse the net and learn something new. Spend some quality time with the wife and kids.
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It's like "OMFG NO! my torrents won't download!" - End of the world!
Take this time to browse the net and learn something new. Spend some quality time with the wife and kids.
*i'll probably get flamed for this, yes?!*
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My MWEB uncapped account is dead, so is my WA local only IS account. I am posting on my cell. That is not proper browsing.
Edit: Fixed. Still had it on Google's DNS servers.
Edit: Fixed. Still had it on Google's DNS servers.
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Axxess 626 is local only
Mweb ...I cant even play CoD4 local because my key cant authenticate
Axxess Unshaped SAIX... Sigh I need to sell another kidney for access to the internet.
Telkom, unplayable internasional lag.
Mweb ...I cant even play CoD4 local because my key cant authenticate
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Illogical troll is illogical. How does one browse the web when the web is down? Also, we rely heavily on the internet at work, so its not just a matter of torrents not downloading, its a matter of reduced productivity.BeoTeK wrote:Take this time to browse the net and learn something new. Spend some quality time with the wife and kids.
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Unfortunately, many people can't even browse. It may not be a daily occurrence, but it's almost monthly for the last seven or eight. The thing is, Seacom was supposed to be bandwidth messiah. It promised so much that it seems several ISPs invested in it without backup plans. All these interruptions are serious letdowns after what it promised.BeoTeK wrote:LOL People go so awol when stuff like this happens. Chill out people, not like it goes down every day and i'm sure they are trying everything in the power to get it fixed asap. Accept it, nothing you can do about it.
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SAT3 isnt down half as much as Seacom. Now here we have a hourglass problem: On the one side we have decent, maybe even good pricing with a bad line vs a horrible pricing with a seemingly good line. My guess is after this that most companies will stay with telkom and we will never see proper gaming connections or proper pricing for that matter.
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Or everyone will just jump on the next undersea bandwagon that comes along.
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Saddle up! THAT BANDWAGON HAS ARRIVED
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Great! Hopefully this will allow for less severe throttling and shaping rules, as well as cheaper pricing and faster speed tiers.
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Changed the title to accommodate a broader spectrum of discussion.
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I personally don't believe that we'll see the same bandwidth revolution with EASSy as we did with SEACOM. If anything, what I'm expecting is for the SEACOM ISPs to use EASSy as a redundant link, particularly given the teething problems that SEACOM has been experiencing. First prize would for the powers that own the cables to set up their own redundancy agreement (something like "hey, we'll let you route over our cable when you go down if you'll do the same for us") which would make any such failover completely transparent to the ISP. (SAT-3 already uses the ancient and venerable SAFE cable in a similar fashion, which is why one seldom hears about the likes of TelkomInternet, Web Africa etc. experiencing loss of international connectivity.)KALSTER wrote:Great! Hopefully this will allow for less severe throttling and shaping rules, as well as cheaper pricing and faster speed tiers.
I may be proved wrong in a few months though.
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Evil advertiser!Ron2K wrote:which is why one seldom hears about the likes of TelkomInternet, Web Africa etc. experiencing loss of international connectivity.
Is it sustainable?
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Oh shuddup.
But I still think I may be right. Simply put, there's a lot more redundancy on the west coast than there is on the east cost right now...
But I still think I may be right. Simply put, there's a lot more redundancy on the west coast than there is on the east cost right now...
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Oi! Just because you ran away to the west coast, that doesn't make it betterRon2K wrote:Oh shuddup.
But I still think I may be right. Simply put, there's a lot more redundancy on the west coast than there is on the east cost right now...
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does ron work for Web Africa or have an agreement with them?Stuart wrote:Evil advertiser!Ron2K wrote:which is why one seldom hears about the likes of TelkomInternet, Web Africa etc. experiencing loss of international connectivity.
Is it sustainable?
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Ron works for webafricaDeathStrike wrote:does ron work for Web Africa or have an agreement with them?Stuart wrote:Evil advertiser!Ron2K wrote:which is why one seldom hears about the likes of TelkomInternet, Web Africa etc. experiencing loss of international connectivity.
Is it sustainable?
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So Ron, when are we going to see an uncapped offering from you guys? I will move back to WebAfrica as soon as they have one that is competitive and acceptably throttled and shaped.
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The affordable uncapped offerings are pretty much all using SEACOM bandwidth right now, which is precisely what WA refuses to do because of all the issues we're having with SEACOM.KALSTER wrote:So Ron, when are we going to see an uncapped offering from you guys? I will move back to WebAfrica as soon as they have one that is competitive and acceptably throttled and shaped.
Now if WA would release some more Titan data only offerings . . .
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Heh, not my department, so I wouldn't know (and wouldn't tell you anyway if I did).KALSTER wrote:So Ron, when are we going to see an uncapped offering from you guys? I will move back to WebAfrica as soon as they have one that is competitive and acceptably throttled and shaped.
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This just in:
If they do indeed partner with SEACOM, that's even better for redundancy, as the cables will be in totally separate geographical areas (and in particular, if SEACOM decides not to partner with EASSy, we could be in for another price war - depends how they price themselves in the market). Sucks that it will only be late 2011 though.
SourceMyBroadband wrote:The Main One submarine cable went live recently, and plans to extend the cable to South Africa are under way
Main One recently announced that it's 1.920 Tbps, 7000 kilometres long, submarine fibre optic cable system linking West Africa to Europe has been completed and commissioned.
With landing stations in Nigeria and Ghana and branching units in Morocco, Canary Islands, Senegal and Ivory Coast, the cable will deliver a broadband capacity to West Africa of more than ten times what is currently available.
Plans are already under way to extend the Main One cable system to South Africa. Bernard Logan, Business Development Executive of the Main One Cable Company, said that they are in advanced discussions with SEACOM and other companies to extend the cable to SA.
Logan pointed out that the initial Main One plan was to build a cable which will link South Africa and other West Coast countries to Portugal, but that financial constraints and regulatory issues in SA meant that the cable is being built in two phases: Taking the cable to Nigeria and then bringing it to South Africa and other countries along the way.
With the first phase of Main One complete and many operators currently lighting circuits on the system Logan said that it is far easier to secure finance and hence extend the cable system to South Africa.
One of the biggest challenges facing Main One is the actual West Coast landing point in South Africa. The now outdated SAT-2 landing station in Melkbosstrand will fall away which means that adequate space is available for the modern Main One cable system to place their equipment down.
But the sticking point is that Telkom must agree to this - and hence welcoming a competitor into its landing station - which could be challenging.
Logan however said that they will bypass this problem by extending the cable to the SEACOM landing station in Mtunzini if they need to. The best and cheapest solution will however be to land close to Cape Town and use Dark Fibre Africa or Neotel for their terrestrial backhaul needs within South Africa.
The Main One system is an open access system similar to SEACOM where capacity is sold to any interested party at set bandwidth rates. It is therefore not particularly surprising that Main One is partnering with SEACOM to bring a comprehensive international connectivity solution to South African companies.
"We work together with SEACOM as brothers," said Logan. "We have the same philosophy and with our partner E5 we can definitely make this project happen."
Questions have been raised about the viability of a local Main One presence when the 5.12 Tbps WACS cable is set to land in the country by the end of 2011, but Logan said that he is confident that they have a sound business model.
The WACS cable is run by a consortium - similar to SAT-3/SAFE - raising questions as to whether the shareholders will be keen to sell bandwidth at affordable rates to their competitors. Logan said that Main One will not only provide affordable and abundant bandwidth, but since it is an open access system anyone will be able to buy from them without any vested interest from a shareholder.
Logan added that they are not only interested in South Africa's business through their cable extension, but are looking at other growing markets like Angola and Ghana.
Main One is expected to start building their South African leg in early 2011 with a planned launch date of late 2011.
If they do indeed partner with SEACOM, that's even better for redundancy, as the cables will be in totally separate geographical areas (and in particular, if SEACOM decides not to partner with EASSy, we could be in for another price war - depends how they price themselves in the market). Sucks that it will only be late 2011 though.
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Compliments of Craemer's
Fibre-optic cable system operator Seacom expects its faulty undersea cable to be repaired at the end of this week, as the repair schedule remained on track.
However, the company cautioned that a number of external factors including location, water depth, ocean currents and weather made the cable outage "very difficult" to repair
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Now we will have the Nigerians steel the bandwidth and the pirates occupy the sea cable.
We lost major productivity with this faulty cable cause our main server was still in Belgium.
We lost major productivity with this faulty cable cause our main server was still in Belgium.
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