Is it possible to create networking profiles?

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Is it possible to create networking profiles?

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Hey guys,

At the office, I use a 5GB Static IP line for ADSL access, everyone else is on a seperate ADSL line and account.

The office network (and their ADSL router) is on the 10.0.0.x IP range.

I'm on the 192.168.1.x range.

This creates a problem because whenever I want to print, I have to change my IP & subnet to the 10.0.0.x range, then change back when I'm done.

Is it possible to create networking profiles which would allow me to quickly switch between the IP ranges?

I can't change the IP address of my router, and I also can't change the IP range of the other network, as their are some dependencies which need to be untouched.

Any ideas?
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Get a router or bridge?
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Erm...where? I have a switch which I am connected to.

Do you mean a router between my PC and the rest of the network?

Sorry, I'm not an IT network guy.
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Re: Is it possible to create networking profiles?

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A router between your PC and rest of network should give you the least headaches. Also maybe a second network card in your PC should do the trick.
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It's a laptop so I can't add a network card.

Seems buying a router would be a fairly expensive route to take, just to print.

What about the networking profiles under LAN settings?

If you go into TCP/IP settings (where you would assign the IP addy), there is an ADVANCED box at the bottom, which allows adding additional IP addresses, gateways etc...

Could that be configured to do what I need it to do?
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It's a laptop so I can't add a network card.

Seems buying a router would be a fairly expensive route to take, just to print.

What about the networking profiles under LAN settings?

If you go into TCP/IP settings (where you would assign the IP addy), there is an ADVANCED box at the bottom, which allows adding additional IP addresses, gateways etc...

Could that be configured to do what I need it to do?
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Stupid me, didn't though of it. Yes you can add a second IP on your laptop under anvanced.
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I tried that, the second one is the 10.0.0.x network...by doing that, I took down my ADSL link.

I ran ipconfig /all.

It showed two IP addresses under the adaptor, with the 10.0.0.x network first, even though it was lower on the list, under advanced.

Due to the subnet maybe?

I see no way of setting preference. Obviously the 192.168.1.x network is the preference, with ability to use the other as a secondary.
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Yeah hit properties on ur network adapter, change from general tab to alternate config. and whack the addresses in there
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funny enough we had a similar issue. The PCF team uses a lot of cap, at least 10x more than the rest of the company. So we have our own internet connection but we still need to access the file server, the printers etc.

Here is how you do it, bearing in mind that we use a DNS server on the premises but if the rest of the network is on a router or a server just use that IP address.

IP: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - your static IP
Subnet: the usual 255.255.255.0 unless you are on a more complex network
gateway: teh IP or your ADSL router

Primary DNS: the other router/server which I previously mentioned
Secondary DNS: your router's IP

hope this helps.
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ADV4NCED wrote:Yeah hit properties on ur network adapter, change from general tab to alternate config. and whack the addresses in there
Did that, but it defaults to the wrong network, don't see an option to change priorities.

KB, Thanks, will try it now.
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HMM, my DNS' need to be set to MWEB's servers, otherwise I lose my ADSL link.

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C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>net view
Server Name            Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\TECH-SUPPORT
The command completed successfully.


C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tech-support
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 570x Gigabit Integrated Con
troller
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-BA-35-20
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 196.14.239.2
                                            168.210.2.2
                                            10.0.0.2
                                            192.168.1.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>ping 10.0.0.50

Pinging 10.0.0.50 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 10.0.0.50:
    Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 0, Lost = 1 (100% loss),
Control-C
^C
C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>
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I still can't access the printer (10.0.0.50) by adding those DNS settings. Will try adding them as gateways, seeing if it makes any difference.
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what do you use to access ADSL??? modem or router?
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KillerByte wrote:what do you use to access ADSL??? modem or router?
Cisco 800 series router which connects to MWEB. It's a static IP line.

With the below configuration, I have net access and access to the printer/rest of the network.

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C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>net view
Server Name            Remark

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\BOB-D830             Bob Dell D830
\\BRENDA
\\PROSPER
\\PVT-84D8E7E2A21
\\SAL-DELL             Dell Vostro
\\TECH-SUPPORT
\\TOSHIBA
The command completed successfully.


C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tech-support
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 570x Gigabit Integrated Con
troller
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-BA-35-20
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
                                            10.0.0.2
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 196.14.239.2
                                            168.210.2.2
                                            192.168.1.1
                                            10.0.0.2

C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>ping www.yahoo.com

Pinging www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [87.248.113.14] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=265ms TTL=52
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=280ms TTL=52
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=259ms TTL=52
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=296ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 87.248.113.14:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 259ms, Maximum = 296ms, Average = 275ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>ping toshiba

Pinging toshiba [10.0.0.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.0.0.50: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.0.50: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.0.50: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.0.50: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255

Ping statistics for 10.0.0.50:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce>
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IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Set subnet to 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
10.0.0.2
Remove 10.0.0.2 as the gateway

Even if it works like it is, you may be getting problems later.
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Nuke wrote:
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.10
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Set subnet to 255.255.255.0
I don't believe 255.255.255.0 is a valid subnet for that IP.
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Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
10.0.0.2
remove 10.0.0.2 as the gateway
Why? It is working as is. Not arguing, just want to know your reason for wanting to remove it?

I should add, 10.0.0.2 is the IP of the other ADSL router, so I would need that gateway to get out, if I needed that ADSL line for whatever reason...
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so it works now Urban???
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Yea it works now KB.

Thanks for you help KB, Advanced and Nuke :)
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so it works now Urban???
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UrBaN wrote:Yea it works now KB.

Thanks for you help KB, Advanced and Nuke :)
:lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, it works now KB! :lol:
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You will not be able to access any 10.x.x.x ips on other places with that subnet mask.

Also with 10.0.0.2 as your second gateway, your internet may stop working if it becomes your primary(for whatever reason, Cisco going down/cable unplugged/Windows being crazy/whatever)
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Nuke wrote:You will not be able to access any 10.x.x.x ips on other places with that subnet mask.
That's ok, I normally change my IP whenever it's needed. I just found it a hassle for general in-office work.
Nuke wrote:Also with 10.0.0.2 as your second gateway, your internet may stop working if it becomes your primary(for whatever reason, Cisco going down/cable unplugged/Windows being crazy/whatever)
I have had that happen. However, I don't think it works if I remove that gateway. Let me check quickly.
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OK it seems fine without that gateway, thanks Nuke.
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