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Vista users are ecstatic about Windows 7, but what about all the fourteen hardcore users who bought Windows 1.0 after reading the first review ever in Byte's December 1983 issue? Here are the highlights:

• Microsoft Windows is an installable device driver under MS-DOS 2.0 using ordinary MS-DOS files.

• Complete compatibility with MS-DOS means that Windows will at least let you run any application that runs under MS-DOS.

• In the worst case, Windows will turn the fill display over to an MS-DOS application and return you to your place in Windows.

• During normal use, Microsoft Windows displays one or more [tiled] windows, each with a different application.

• The "session-control layer" becomes the equivalent of the empty desktop where you can manipulate files. The available commands appear near the bottom of the screen.

• To see the available applications programs, you either use the mouse to position the cursor on the command "Run" or type the letter "R." Windows lists all the applications programs as commands, and you point at the desired program and click the mouse to run it. You could also type the appropriate letter instead.

• In this case, the program that's run is "uncooperative" - that is, it doesn't do everything through MS-DOS system calls, sometimes going beyond the operating system to write directly to the hardware addresses such as those of screen memory.

• ...the transition from the uncooperative program to a "smart" one that can live happily in a smaller window and share the screen with other programs that take full advantage of Microsoft Windows. The smart program is Microsoft Word.

• Pointing at the PEN commands on the command bar at the bottom of the screen has brought the display of the menu of pen sizes and patterns. You select sizes and patterns by using the mouse to point at one of the boxes shown in each list, then pointing at the "OK" box

Why anyone bought this piece of useless crap is beyond me, no matter that the article argues that "the desktop metaphor and the mouse present attractive concepts, but Apple's Lisa or IBM's PC XT running Visi On exceeds the budget of the average personal computer user." Well, that's exactly why I had an Apple II and then got an IBM XT. Users thought the same. In fact, Windows 2.0 (Windows 286—which I had) was almost as bad as 1.0. It wasn't until Windows 3 that the operating system gained some traction, and it wasn't until Windows 95 when it really became a big success.
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Wow. anyone here remember windows 3.1? or any of the older ones? how was it the first time you used it?
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My first pc was a 486 with 4MB of memory and a 400MB disk. Yes 400MB! hahaha! Ran Windows 3.1 and it was the bomb. Colour screen and all.

It was awesome. I played wolfenstein, duke nukem, stunts and all these little dos games. I spent very little time in windows though. I created batch files to launch all my games from the C:\ root, so instead of sifting through all the directories, I just typed in stunts and the game started.

I still remember buying my first CD-ROM. Cost my parents 500 bokke, but well worth it. Then came a sound card. :D

Windows 3.1 that time was incredible. Instead of DOS you had things like File Manager. It was like, WOW!!! I can see real windows instead of just typing.
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The initial Windows release (version 1.01), required MSDOS 2.0, 256K of RAM, 2 double-sided disk drives or a hard drive, and a Graphics-adapter card. Later versions increased the memory requirement to 320K, but the other system requirements remained unchanged, Windows shipped with a small selection of native applications, many of which still exist today in one format or another. This package consisted of MS-DOS Executive (the file manager), Calendar, Cardfile, Notepad, Terminal, Calculator, Clock, Reversi, Control Panel, PIF Editor, Print Spooler, Clipboard, RAMDrive, Windows Write, and Windows Paint. This was about all prospective Windows users had to work with, since third party Windows software was almost non-existent for the first few years. These Windows 1.0 applications will not run on later versions of Windows (not even on Windows 2.0, I have tried). If Microsoft had kept up that trend of ditching backwards compatibility, then Windows would probably be a much better operating system today (although it would probably have a smaller market share).
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I'm feeling old because I can remember Windows 3.1 and playing Wolfenstein and Captain Comic (which didn't have a save-game option). Grew up using command prompts. Oh the memories *sigh*
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I was brought up on good old Windows 3.1. :wink:
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Ron2K wrote:I was brought up on good old Windows 3.1. :wink:
Yeah, I could imagine your parents found something better to do while waiting for startup...
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Ron2K wrote:I was brought up on good old Windows 3.1. :wink:
+1 along with the original duke nukem :lol: :mrgreen:
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Firestrm wrote:
Ron2K wrote:I was brought up on good old Windows 3.1. :wink:
+1 along with the original duke nukem :lol: :mrgreen:
Me too. :lol:
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I was originally a DOS user then we upgraded the home PC to a 486 that launched me into Win 3.1 . I played all the old DOS games as well as the later "3D" Games :P.
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Aah good memories...

First proper PC I had was a P-100 with 16MB RAM and a 852MB HDD running Windows 3.11. :love4:
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Am I the only one who started on DOS?!? :shock:
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Anakha56 wrote:Am I the only one who started on DOS?!? :shock:
Nope, I was also pre-windows IT literate and started on DOS 5.0 with the bat menu startup thing (I think the default was pink and green, but you could edit it and change the bat files. I even remember edit that Gorrila and Nibbles game to change colour and "cheat"
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Anakha56 wrote:Am I the only one who started on DOS?!?
def. not... still remember the joys to be had in fiddling himem.sys to get a game to run :lol:

and mucking around with basic :oops:
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damn i remember those days, the games were so awesome they made you see those bright colours even after you turn the monitor off. some of those games i could never get, doom and wolfenstein were fine but i also played a rugby game but all you saw where little text characters on screen, was confusing shiznit!
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Aaah the days of Monochrome graphics. Those were the days. When we played games cuz the game was actually addictive and not just cuz of the nice pictures.
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The good old day.

I remember working at the DOS prompt on my old 386DX with 4 Megs of Ram. I had Windows 3.1 on the machine as well. But I never really used it too much. I remember getting excited when Windows 95 came out.

I loved playing the commander Keen series, Wolfenstien, Space Quest Series and Kings Quest Series. Today games do not compare to those games. We may have fancy graphics and good engines, but the playability of those old games were the best.

I am loved Duke3d.

Still have these games today in Dosbox.

The control you had over your system in those days was cool, I would spend hours playing with my autoexec.bat and config.sys file to get every little bit of memory out of my system. Maybe that why I like playing with Linux, as it kinda takes you back to those days, with the level of control you have in linux.
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fbman wrote:The control you had over your system in those days was cool, I would spend hours playing with my autoexec.bat and config.sys file to get every little bit of memory out of my system. Maybe that why I like playing with Linux, as it kinda takes you back to those days, with the level of control you have in linux.
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Had a 386 with 2MB RAM. Had to actually scramble around in the config files to try and make a game fit into memory and then to have enouth HMA for the game to do its stuff.
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rustypup wrote:
Anakha56 wrote:Am I the only one who started on DOS?!?
def. not... still remember the joys to be had in fiddling himem.sys to get a game to run :lol:

and mucking around with basic :oops:
lol i remember breaking windows 3.1 cos i messed up config.sys, so himem.sys couldnt be loaded :mrgreen:

and i also remember those old dos text based dos games, usually having the .com extension.
then some great dos games like doom, etc. 8)
and then those win 3.1 games like bang bang, and so on... :P

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FIrst PC was a 286 8MHz. Trouble was it was only 16bit...so no windows 3.1 :(
    
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Belix wrote:FIrst PC was a 286 8MHz. Trouble was it was only 16bit...so no windows 3.1 :(
um... windows 3.1 was 16 bit.
it would run on the 286.
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Windows 3.1 only ran in protected mode on 386 CPUs (386 enhanced mode). 286's could run it in a "safe" mode only and it wouldn't recognize more than 1MB RAM so I don't think all the apps would run.
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Hex_Rated wrote:Windows 3.1 only ran in protected mode on 386 CPUs (386 enhanced mode). 286's could run it in a "safe" mode only and it wouldn't recognize more than 1MB RAM so I don't think all the apps would run.
386 enhanced mode -> aaah i remember that now.... :mrgreen:

yeah you're right, thanks :wink:
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shiv wrote:
Hex_Rated wrote:Windows 3.1 only ran in protected mode on 386 CPUs (386 enhanced mode). 286's could run it in a "safe" mode only and it wouldn't recognize more than 1MB RAM so I don't think all the apps would run.
386 enhanced mode -> aaah i remember that now.... :mrgreen:

yeah you're right, thanks :wink:
Yeah with HMA and EMA.

HMA only gave you 1MB minus a 16bit offset used for addressing.
EMA is where the use of more than 1MB started. By re-mapping the other memory into a black hole in HMA it could effectively simulate the address space needed for the application.
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The 286's were 16bit, and the 386SX's were 16bit

the 386DX introduced us to 32bit. (as windows 95 required as min a 386DX)
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But running Win95 on a 386 would be like running Vista on a Pentium-233.
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