oil cooled rig

djwez · Post by **djwez** » 19 Jan 2009, 20:00

hey guys i thought about makeing a oil cooled case that gets put inside a small portable freezer

there should be no condensation as there is know air between the components and oil

input?

inf3ct10n · Post by **inf3ct10n** » 19 Jan 2009, 23:30

at the end of the day... is it really worthwhile to have your computer submerged in oil? It's been done before... look for the link on tomshardware.com - personally, I think its quite silly... but yeah whatever floats your boat i guess.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 20 Jan 2009, 01:42

Um condensation is going to form and you'll get water at the bottom of the oil.

You also need to consider how you plan on cooling the oil. For the price and effort, you'd be better off finding out how to use oil in a water cooling system, you'd need different hoses and a hydraulic pump of sorts and an oil cooler which is not quite the same as a water cooler. Now that i do not beleive has been done before

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 20 Jan 2009, 09:56

Prime wrote:Um condensation is going to form and you'll get water at the bottom of the oil.

Um no. Cause what is condensation going to form from ? There is no water in atmosphere as its filled with oil.

Kasyx · Post by **Kasyx** » 20 Jan 2009, 10:14

Yes, but in order for that to happen, you would have to vacuum seal the box in which the oil resides, basically ensuring there is nothing but oil in there (not even air).

rustypup · Post by **rustypup** » 20 Jan 2009, 10:22

even a hermetically sealed case of oil is going to get manky around reheating... oil gels with constant heating/cooling, and gel doesn't circulate all that well...

if you're planning on doing it for the laughs, then go for it... if you're going to drop 20k worth of kit into it, can i get an invite?.. i've just splashed out on a high res camera and itching for some youtube footage...

djwez · Post by **djwez** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:06

rustypup wrote:even a hermetically sealed case of oil is going to get manky around reheating... oil gels with constant heating/cooling, and gel doesn't circulate all that well...

if you're planning on doing it for the laughs, then go for it... if you're going to drop 20k worth of kit into it, can i get an invite?.. i've just splashed out on a high res camera and itching for some youtube footage...

20k never

Prime wrote:Um condensation is going to form and you'll get water at the bottom of the oil.

You also need to consider how you plan on cooling the oil. For the price and effort, you'd be better off finding out how to use oil in a water cooling system, you'd need different hoses and a hydraulic pump of sorts and an oil cooler which is not quite the same as a water cooler. Now that i do not beleive has been done before

the oil will be colled by heatsinks

so i thought if the whole thing is put in a fridge the hot oil meeting the cold air will cause the condensation. so what if you got a pump to pump the oil into a radiator inside the bar fridge

will try to sketchup it

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:14

Dude its now worth it.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:27

Sigh! Any air trapped inside will have moisture in it. Drop the temp of the air to below depoint and you'll get condensation.

Regarding Heating and cooling oil. Cooking oil will get manky but transformer oil won't. But i reinterate my point, spend the money on decent wc or air cooling. And if you must, substitute oil for the water in the cooling loop.

If however you still want to put it into a fridge then i'd suggest exchanging the air inside for pure nitrogen.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:28

Mow wrote:Dude its now worth it.

it is? Make up your mind.

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:32

Prepare to feel totally stupid....

http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:34

Prime wrote:If however you still want to put it into a fridge then i'd suggest exchanging the air inside for pure nitrogen.

Hmmm that gives me an idea for my build.

*Runs around to find a notepad and pen*

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:46

Firestrm wrote:Prepare to feel totally stupid....

http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/

Ok, something deosn't make sense, look on the quality tab. that thing still has blocks and loops.

djwez · Post by **djwez** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:49

the black box is fridge/freezer

the green one inside is radiator

the orange pipe would be the oil coming out of case

blue pipe is cold oil back

the oil level will be above all of the pipes

djwez · Post by **djwez** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:50

Prime wrote:
Firestrm wrote:Prepare to feel totally stupid....

http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/

Ok, something deosn't make sense, look on the quality tab. that thing still has blocks and loops.

sigh i hate local cap

rustypup · Post by **rustypup** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:54

Firestrm wrote:hardcorecomputer

that's not oil...

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 20 Jan 2009, 11:56

rustypup wrote:
Firestrm wrote:hardcorecomputer
that's not oil...

Agreed but did you check the Vantage scores

djwez · Post by **djwez** » 20 Jan 2009, 12:01

rustypup wrote:even a hermetically sealed case of oil is going to get manky around reheating

hmmmmmmmm.....
that wont be to good

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 20 Jan 2009, 12:11

rustypup wrote:
Firestrm wrote:hardcorecomputer
that's not oil...

mineral oil...... hows that not oil?

rustypup · Post by **rustypup** » 20 Jan 2009, 12:20

Firestrm wrote:mineral oil...... hows that not oil?

who told you that was mineral oil?

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 20 Jan 2009, 12:55

rustypup wrote:
Firestrm wrote:mineral oil...... hows that not oil?
who told you that was mineral oil?

well its a mixture... of synthetics etc..... check the site

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 20 Jan 2009, 12:59

and i quote

Core Coolant™ is a synthetic hydrocarbon cooling fluid, developed to cool heat-producing components in Hardcore Computer, Inc.™ systems. Because of its low viscosity and excellent heat transfer characteristics, the use of Core Coolant™ allows Hardcore Computer, Inc.™ systems to operate at much lower temperatures than would be available with other cooling solutions.

Core Coolant™ is made from a blend of ultra-pure, food-grade synthetic base oils, including PAOs, which are made from hydrocarbon gases chemically combined to form a liquid. The PAO oils are blended with other synthetic oils, called VHVI fluids. These are highly refined petroleum products that undergo a process that rearranges the oil's molecular structure, eliminating impurities and resulting in an extremely clean, pure, and non-toxic hydrocarbon fluid.

Core Coolant™ looks and feels like very clean, low viscosity petroleum oil, with no smell. As compared to mineral oils, which are highly complex mixtures of hydrocarbons, Core Coolant™ is chemically uniform and extremely pure. Maintenance and disposal procedures for Core Coolant™ are the same as for mineral oil. It can be reprocessed for continued use in the same way as mineral oil.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 20 Jan 2009, 12:59

Firestrm wrote:
rustypup wrote:
Firestrm wrote:mineral oil...... hows that not oil?
who told you that was mineral oil?
well its a mixture... of synthetics etc..... check the site

Mineral oil and synthetics should never be mixed. they are not the same thing.

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 20 Jan 2009, 13:00

so i was mistaken on the mineral oil side

but its still oil

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 20 Jan 2009, 13:00

Prime, check above your post

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