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In lieu of Intel's planned x86 approach to GPUs and the illusive feat of real time ray-tracing they are promising, what do you think of their foray into graphics?
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It will be interesting to see how this progresses... If they manage to get a workable card out sometime soon, I think they might have a chance at getting in on the game, however, I think it will still take a while before they have any serious sort of brand recognition in the gfx industry. IMHO, I don't think NVidia or ATI are shaking in their boots regarding this just yet. Other companies have made the same sort of 'threats' Intel is making, and none have yet to deliver...
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i foresee a year or two of driver hell for early adopters... and then there's the horrors that brand marketing commit in the name of awareness..

my secondary question is: what in the name of pluto's underwear is a "decemeber"? :lol:

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I have heard a few good things lately - but still am not convinced. But that doesn't matter - as all the n00bs will go and buy it anyway - it is an INTEL after all :twisted:
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rustypup wrote:my secondary question is: what in the name of pluto's underwear is a "decemeber"? :lol:
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rustypup wrote:i foresee a year or two of driver hell for early adopters... and then there's the horrors that brand marketing commit in the name of awareness..

my secondary question is: what in the name of pluto's underwear is a "decemeber"? :lol:

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I think their approach into incorporating ray-tracing into their proposed graphics chipset will be an excuse to introduce proprietary hardware which will ultimately monopolize the market against other manufacturers short of everybody adopting AMD. If they start manufacturing decent onboard graphics chipsets coupled to the required powerful processors which will go hand-in-hand at a decent price, they could very well remove the rug from under companies that would still require add-on slots for their hardware to function.

It's going to be interesting, let's see how it pans out.
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rustypup wrote:my secondary question is: what in the name of pluto's underwear is a "decemeber"? :lol:
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Nab wrote:In lieu of Intel's planned x86 approach to GPUs and the illusive feat of real time ray-tracing they are promising, what do you think of their foray into graphics?
Uhm, what?!
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WiK1d wrote:
Nab wrote:In lieu of Intel's planned x86 approach to GPUs and the illusive feat of real time ray-tracing they are promising, what do you think of their foray into graphics?
Uhm, what?!
ok ok for the layman over here....... :lol:

what you scheme about intel making GFX's?
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WiK1d wrote:
Nab wrote:In lieu of Intel's planned x86 approach to GPUs and the illusive feat of real time ray-tracing they are promising, what do you think of their foray into graphics?
Uhm, what?!
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Another player in the GFX market? Could be fun. Just hope it doesn't mean that one of the other 2 aren't kicked out.
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WiK1d wrote:
Nab wrote:In lieu of Intel's planned x86 approach to GPUs and the illusive feat of real time ray-tracing they are promising, what do you think of their foray into graphics?
Uhm, what?!
lol

I'm with GW on this one. It could be interesting.

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I'm not convinced in lieu of there view on current GPU's. I do recall them believing a GPU wouldn't outperform a CPU

Now we have CUDA and GPU's hacking WPA using brute force attacks... They have some catching up to do.
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Competition is always a good thing especially in the GFX market where only two companies compete for our cash.
Plus, if Intel can get it working, the consoles will be pwned by the PC as a gaming rig. PC gaming FTW!
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Intel is a company renowned for pulling off amazing innovation, look at Conroe and Nehalem. They can pour more resources into this project than what both AMD and nVidia put into R&D combined... and not even flinch. Since GPUs are converging to become CPUs in their own right I believe that Intel's solution could well be competitive with at least the midrange. I'm looking forward to it solely because of the unique approach they are taking, it's flexibility and the fact it uses the x86 instruction set. They won't ultimately fail because there is big money to be made in the discrete graphics market now, and they want a piece of that pie.

I agree with rustypup though, there will be driver hell for awhile given how flexible their solution is. Their first release will just be to test the waters, following hardware releases will close the gap to nVidia and AMD. I'll be very surprised if they are competitive (price and performance) with the current high end on their first iteration of hardware.
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shinji-aoi wrote:if Intel can get it working, the consoles will be pwned by the PC as a gaming rig.
uh... that's always been the case... console marketing may wish it were different, but PC is still the bleeding edge platform...
Hex_Rated wrote: Their first release will just be to test the waters
they're also gunning for the linux users... not a bad move, if they get it right...
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rustypup wrote:
Hex_Rated wrote: Their first release will just be to test the waters
they're also gunning for the linux users... not a bad move, if they get it right...
I think a lot of people will be very interested in using it for HPC. It is just a set of CPUs with vector units, it should have enormous and flexible processing power that could port well with existing apps. Traditional GPUs are very powerful, but the still lack the versatility of CPUs.
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cant wait 2 c what intel come up with...hehe maybe the competition will drop the price on a few cards :D
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I can't wait to get my new magazine.
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I'll be interested to see how the old games would handle this new system. There will be many unhappy gamers if we end up with a platform thats not backwards compatible. Will Intels new system work with DirectX or something else?

The reality is that they have been building graphics chips for years, so they have the basic tech...
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It will Take a While for them to get it out there, they have a bad reputation when it comes to thier GPU's and if its gonna use ray tracing it will be a good concept but look at Direct X 10 2 years old and we still have majority Direct X 9 games. plus Ray tracing needs more processing power if u think about it so think of how big those cards are gonna be. bulky heatsinks and power hungry just for a mid range card
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