To Bypass Internet Censorship: A Guide.

Post by **Anakha56** » 17 Oct 2007, 04:00

http://citizenlab.org/Circ_guide.pdf

Very good read. Thought someone here would it enjoy it as well btw its 31 pages long

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:13

I have to ask whether this is allowable on a forum?

It is advocating illegal activity and immoral behaviour...

As much as I would also be reading that, people should use google to find this. This is not a forum for hackers or other people trying to break the rules/code of conduct set in place by their company...

D3PART3D · Post by **D3PART3D** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:16

Slasher go play prefect somewhere else!

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:19

Slasher wrote:It is advocating illegal activity and immoral behaviour...

In that case lets sticky it!

ecthelion · Post by **ecthelion** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:23

ROFL!!!

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:29

G-Boy - As I said, I will be reading it...

but if you allow this, why is Piracy not allowed to be discussed? Why cant I discuss the hacking of a corporate banking server on these forums with detailed How-To's and such?

D3PART3D · Post by **D3PART3D** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:34

Well, I'm not going to tell Cammy, are you?

Rish_zn · Post by **Rish_zn** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:35

Slasher wrote:I have to ask whether this is allowable on a forum?

It is advocating illegal activity and immoral behaviour...

As much as I would also be reading that, people should use google to find this. This is not a forum for hackers or other people trying to break the rules/code of conduct set in place by their company...

I have to agree, but hey this is a mod we talking about here,

lets one us mortals break the rules and we have the whole of pcf mods sending you pm's demanding an explanation.

I havent read the article though

D3PART3D · Post by **D3PART3D** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:41

Rish_zn wrote:but hey this is a mod we talking about here, lets one us mortals break the rules and we have the whole of pcf mods sending you pm's demanding an explanation.

Cry me a river

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:42

Power abuse FTW eh?

FTL I say...

D3PART3D · Post by **D3PART3D** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:48

If I had power, I'd molest it.

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:50

I see nothing illegal in this document.

I also see it is published by a department within the University of Toronto.

Please go and find something more constructive that whinging on an internet forum to do with your collective selves.

Any more OT posts arguing the legality of this document will be looked upon unfavourably.

PM Cameron if you want to complain further.

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:53

How is discussing the legality of this OT?

Wether it is published by a university or not, its sole purpose is to allow people to bypass their company COC / COE and misuse the internet connection.

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:57

cencorship does not mean hacking it means places like chine censoring "political - related websites". This is not a evil thing. This document helps to promote freesome of speach, yea sure people will abuse it for doing evit. But that is not the intention of this document.

JMO...

rustypup · Post by **rustypup** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:57

it makes for some interesting reading...

and their point is very valid. in most cases, the document deals with circumventing censorship. like driving a car, the individual chooses whether or not to obey the rule of law. denying everyone acces to this information on the grounds that it can be misused is tantamount to denying them access to pens because they can take an eye out..

nice find Anakha56

not much new, but one or two interesting little nuggets there for perusal...

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 17 Oct 2007, 08:59

I tend to agree, this is, if not an outright incentive to commit fraud, it is on the edge. I have not had time to read the complete article, I will do so now and then discuss a decision on its place in this forum.

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:00

Slasher wrote:How is discussing the legality of this OT?

Discussing the legality of this is not OT

But you havent discussed it's legality, have you? You have simply come in here TELLING us it is illegal, and also immoral. How is that a discussion?

Get off your soap box.

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:07

Jamin - As soon as you get off you Moderator power throne... Want me to call the firestation for you so they can bring a ladder long enough?

I voiced my opinion, you voiced yours. My saying that I feel this is illegal is still not OT...

Even if it is for people to overcome the China cencorship, it is still a way to assist a user to break a lawe (In that case, Country law, which is actually a punishable offence if you break the law...)

There are laws for reasons, even if it may not be right for us, you are not supposed to break it...

What other purpose does this document have than to bypass set procedures/laws/principles and thus breaking a law, be it company or country law...

rustypup · Post by **rustypup** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:08

Slasher wrote:What other purpose does this document have than to bypass set procedures/laws/principles and thus breaking a law, be it company or country law...

have you read it?

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:12

I have not had the full length of time, no. I just downloaded the document.

However, I have work to do in between and thus can not sit for long and just read read read...

rustypup · Post by **rustypup** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:13

Slasher wrote:I have work to do in between and thus can not sit for long and just read read read...

fair enough... however, i would advise you to at least read the document before passing judgement

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:39

BOOM - I read it, except for the details on each possible application, but the full oversight document part...

It also quite frequently states that it may be illegal... Which company/country would impose filtering without making it illegal to bypass it?

Points to highlight...

"However doing so can impose additional
risks, as there is now evidence on your computer
of the use of circumvention technologies which, if seized
by authorities, could lead to liabilities."

"Accessing banned content can be a serious violation of
the law, especially if the information you are visiting is
considered a national security threat."

"What are your potential
security and legal risks
of hosting circumvention
technologies? Does
your ISP or government
restrict this type of
service?"

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Oct 2007, 09:52

I know this is not a libiration form , but dude. Lighten up, are you aware that in South Africa they are starting to "censor" the media. How long before this will flood into the internet and the goverment. Making it "illegal" to do research on any topic you like. Or to be a member of a forum apposing the beleifs of the ruling goverment. Yest it will be "illegal" to go past that restrictions, but will it be wrong?? NO...

Once again , just my opinion..

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 17 Oct 2007, 10:11

An interesting and very understated article! "Could lead to liabilities" is so understated as to make the mind boggle, if liabilities includes a bullet through the head as in China, well OK then. The Canadians are so lily pink it does not surprise me that the research originates from Toronto.
Even in the USA they regard school censorship as unwarranted, they are suggesting that if you want to use the school library computer to browse porn, child pornography and such like, then go for it. Somewhere there must be an absolute, somewhere we do have people that have a need for protection. In China, and as we have recently seen, Burma, Iran and Turkey the motivation for bypassing censorship is hugely political. Maybe these guys know and understand the risks and are willing to die for them, then so be it.
As a business owner, a small business owner, I do not block any sites at all, I know my people do not abuse this privilege, however in the larger companies this could lead to serious abuse of the company resources. In fact it could result in a job loss situation.
Is the article illegal? I doubt it, possibly in the countries mentioned above but that is done by the State, often very repressive States. Does this in any way fall in the same bracket as piracy, no it does not. It does make an interesting read however if it induces someone to break the law, that is the responsibility of the perpetrator. As to this country carrying out media censorship, they do not, the hype in the press at the moment centres around the printing of documents obtained illegally, documents that are personal and these document contents are protected by our constitution.

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Oct 2007, 10:39

lancelot wrote: As to this country carrying out media censorship, they do not, the hype in the press at the moment centres around the printing of documents obtained illegally, documents that are personal and these document contents are protected by our constitution.

Also debatable..