My New Pc What Do You Think?

Neon948 · Post by **Neon948** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:20

I'm getting a new PC in September, this is what I'm think of getting.

Cpu - Q6600
Mobo - P35 with DDR2 only
Ram - 4GB of DDR2 1066
HDD - 2X i-ram 8GB DDR400
Back Up HDD - 320GB with 16MB cache
Gpu - 8800GTS 640MB then 9 Series next year
Psu - 550W +
Windows XP 64 Bit

Spicy-McHaggis · Post by **Spicy-McHaggis** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:22

Neon948 wrote:I'm getting a new PC in September, this is what I'm think of getting.

Cpu - Q6600
Mobo - P35 with DDR2 only
Ram - 4GB of DDR2 1066
HDD - 2X i-ram 8GB DDR400
Back Up HDD - 320GB with 16MB cache
Gpu - 8800GTS 640MB then 9 Series next year
Psu - 550W +
Windows XP 64 Bit

u sure its XP ?

Neon948 · Post by **Neon948** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:26

Spicy-McHaggis wrote:
Neon948 wrote:I'm getting a new PC in September, this is what I'm think of getting.

Cpu - Q6600
Mobo - P35 with DDR2 only
Ram - 4GB of DDR2 1066
HDD - 2X i-ram 8GB DDR400
Back Up HDD - 320GB with 16MB cache
Gpu - 8800GTS 640MB then 9 Series next year
Psu - 550W +
Windows XP 64 Bit
u sure its XP ?

Yes Windows XP Pro 64 Bit, its not well known.

Keigo · Post by **Keigo** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:30

may I ask why i-ram?

my suggestion~ rather go for western digital raptor series~

have an above average performance and price is reasonable.

Neon948 · Post by **Neon948** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:35

Keigo wrote:may I ask why i-ram?

my suggestion~ rather go for western digital raptor series~

have an above average performance and price is reasonable.

Why i-ram, because i-ram is the fastest drive you can ever think of it beats all normal HDDs by 1000kms, It also will gaive me a boot time of 10sec.

Neon948 · Post by **Neon948** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:47

Keigo · Post by **Keigo** » 19 Jul 2007, 00:53

and are you going to play games?

surely xp 64bit is not suitable for gaming environment.

Neon948 · Post by **Neon948** » 19 Jul 2007, 01:02

Keigo wrote:and are you going to play games?

surely xp 64bit is not suitable for gaming environment.

I will use both when I what to play a 32 Bit game I will copy the Windows from back up to the RAID i-ram, and I'll also do the same with games. I might even get Vista and use that when I'm not playing games.

Keigo · Post by **Keigo** » 19 Jul 2007, 01:07

Neon948 wrote:
Keigo wrote:and are you going to play games?

surely xp 64bit is not suitable for gaming environment.
I will use both when I what to play a 32 Bit game I will copy the Windows from back up to the RAID i-ram, and I'll also do the same with games. I might even get Vista and use that when I'm not playing games.

Anyway~ as long as u happy~

what I would do is get a hdd for OS~

and load the games on i-ram and enjoy top speed loading.

10 second booting is useless for me expect for the time being pleasure.

Neon948 · Post by **Neon948** » 19 Jul 2007, 01:15

Keigo wrote:
Neon948 wrote:
Keigo wrote:and are you going to play games?

surely xp 64bit is not suitable for gaming environment.
I will use both when I what to play a 32 Bit game I will copy the Windows from back up to the RAID i-ram, and I'll also do the same with games. I might even get Vista and use that when I'm not playing games.
Anyway~ as long as u happy~

what I would do is get a hdd for OS~

and load the games on i-ram and enjoy top speed loading.

10 second booting is useless for me expect for the time being pleasure.

So what do you think of the rest of the system?

Post by **Anthro** » 19 Jul 2007, 07:33

It also will give me a boot time of 10sec.

And it will give u like 8gig's of space..

yippeee

Syndicate · Post by **Syndicate** » 19 Jul 2007, 07:52

Neon948 wrote:I'm getting a new PC in September, this is what I'm think of getting.

Cpu - Q6600
Mobo - P35 with DDR2 only
Ram - 4GB of DDR2 1066
HDD - 2X i-ram 8GB DDR400
Back Up HDD - 320GB with 16MB cache
Gpu - 8800GTS 640MB then 9 Series next year
Psu - 550W +
Windows XP 64 Bit

Why bother with the I ram thing, 8GB's of DDR400 is going to cost you a fortune, hope your parents are millionairs...

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 19 Jul 2007, 08:09

1) 8gbs of space is not going to last long... There are games themselves these days that require 8 gigs, never mind adding windows onto that...

Get a Raptor and wait 10 seconds longer in your life... I promise you that that 10 seconds is not worth the loss in space or money... Can you not do something else whilst windows is booting? Imagine the time you are going to lose by copying files around from hdd to iram? Gonna be much more than 10 seconds...

What PSU are you getting? At 550W I hope it is something that can actually supply it to you, looking at the needs of your system...

What cooling will you be using? Stock? No Overclocking?

What case?

Get Windows XP 32 bit. No sense in 64 bit as there is no real advantage. Then go Vista... Screw 64 till there is actually a market need (Which has not happened in the last 5 years, so chances are slim...)

Frozenfireside · Post by **Frozenfireside** » 19 Jul 2007, 09:26

Agreed:I-ram is a waste although you could save everything to the 320gig (programes and such)

Rather get 2X320 SATA HDD's and run them in RAID 0 or get a raptor.

Either way its more reliable and cheaper/the same price.
Performance on a RAID 0 machine is said to be very good but not as good as the raptors.

There are tereabyte HHD's with 32megs cache now and that should be awsome as the bytes are closely packed and the cache is insane.

Rather get a 320meg 8800GTS as the 640 adds 15% price for 10% performance advantage-RAM doesn't make a graphics card, The architecture does.

Also get a bigger PSU-Aopen 7000watt should be considered as I know of 10 people who use them on their 'L33t' machines with no issues.

Other then that-classy machine.

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 19 Jul 2007, 09:41

Frozenfireside wrote:Also get a bigger PSU-Aopen 7000watt should be considered as I know of 10 people who use them on their 'L33t' machines with no issues.

Other then that-classy machine.

Holy cow, you have rich friends... Eskom must hate them though, no wonder we have so many power cuts...

ADV4NCED · Post by **ADV4NCED** » 19 Jul 2007, 09:58

Lose the 4gb of ram and get 2gb.

Lose the 8800GTS 320mb and with the extra money you saved from the RAM, spend it on the video card and buy an HD2900XT.

And like everyone said, Win XP 64 bit sucks bad - I've had it and its useless.

Also any particular reason you're going with a Quad core cpu? What is it you're going to be doing on this pc? Gaming mostly?

If so, I would once again, loose the quad core and go dual core, with the money you saved there & from the ram, buy yourself an 8800GTX.

Frozenfireside · Post by **Frozenfireside** » 19 Jul 2007, 10:44

Agreed but keep the 4gigs for I use Vista and my 2gigs sits at 96% in fear.
and yes XP 64 sucks for games-Why do you think it's so unpopluar?

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 19 Jul 2007, 10:49

ADV4NCED wrote:If so, I would once again, loose the quad core and go dual core, with the money you saved there & from the ram, buy yourself an 8800GTX.

Or an Ultra. They're going for like R5500 now...

Frozenfireside wrote:Agreed but keep the 4gigs for I use Vista and my 2gigs sits at 96% in fear.

What are you talking about dude...

My ram (2GB)is at JUST over 50% right now, and i have a few apps open too.

Frozenfireside · Post by **Frozenfireside** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:00

I'm having issues with ultimate edition with excessive RAM usage and I havent foud the solution.

It did occur after I did a windows update.

BioFreak · Post by **BioFreak** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:00

If you want all 4 gigs of ram to be usable you need to use a 64bit OS. XP 64bit is not too bad at all. Games work just fine. And most programs have been ported to work on it as well.

I like the idea of 2 I-ram drives. 8Gb is more than enough for a basic OS. As long as you install all your apps on the SATA drives.I agree with the gfx, no point in running a gts if you can afford to get a quad... Lose it and get the E6550 when they release and get the GTX/X2900XT in the gts' stead. No real benefit (Other than 3DMark06 and a few synthetic benches) for 4 cores over 2. 4 Gigs ram will become the standard in a few months/year.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:04

Frozenfireside wrote:I'm having issues with ultimate edition with excessive RAM usage and I havent foud the solution.

Okay so because YOUR PC is chowing RAM, now everyone with Vista needs 4GBs?

Frozenfireside wrote:It did occur after I did a windows update.

Before the update - RAM usage fine. After the update - RAM usage excessive.

Hmmm.... i can't seem to figure out what caused your exsessive RAM usage. I'll have to do some research and write a documentary.

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:10

BioFreak wrote:If you want all 4 gigs of ram to be usable you need to use a 64bit OS. XP 64bit is not too bad at all. Games work just fine. And most programs have been ported to work on it as well.

I like the idea of 2 I-ram drives. 8Gb is more than enough for a basic OS. As long as you install all your apps on the SATA drives.I agree with the gfx, no point in running a gts if you can afford to get a quad... Lose it and get the E6550 when they release and get the GTX/X2900XT in the gts' stead. No real benefit (Other than 3DMark06 and a few synthetic benches) for 4 cores over 2. 4 Gigs ram will become the standard in a few months/year.

But then other than a fast booting OS, there will be no real advantage to your game or app loading speeds... Thus, what is the advantage in using the I-drives at the cost of an arm and a leg and another arm and maybe even a leg too...

Agreed with getting the E6550, price and performance on that is very nice. Then the GTX should perform well with it...

BioFreak · Post by **BioFreak** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:18

If your OS loads fast and responds faster you get the benefit not just in the OS but it ripples to all aspects. Have you tried going from a 5400RPM IDE drive to a 10,000RPM SATA2 WD Raptor? Even though you only use the faster drive for the OS everything runs so much faster it's scary.

Slasher · Post by **Slasher** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:24

But still a lot of a big game these days needs to be cached to the ram... Sure you gain speed on your swop file on the windows drive, but that should be the beginning and end of half the matter...

It can still not be worth the money to spend on it? The speed increase will also only increment so far, then become redundant as your other HDD reads at peak speed... no matter how many i-drives you run after that the hdd can not do more...

viceroy · Post by **viceroy** » 19 Jul 2007, 11:29

Keigo wrote:and are you going to play games?

surely xp 64bit is not suitable for gaming environment.

Why do you say that? Ever tried XP64? I run it exclusively at home and its far more stable than XP32 since its based on Windows 2003 and it's able to use far more ram than XP32

I've never had issues with any games not working, even C&C3 which won't run on Vista 64 works fine on XP64

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