Ron's near-disasterous attempt - and it was just a cooler!

Post by **Ron2K** » 24 Jun 2007, 20:40

I just got back from Gauteng with my shiny new Enzotech cooler that I picked up from WiK1D at the KZN/JHB meet, and thought "let's install this thing". But...

Firstly, when I tried to remove the stock cooler, the processor came out with it, and I ended up with 5 bent pins. Took me 45 minutes of TLC to sort that one out, but eventually the CPU fitted back in its socket.

Then, I found out that to get the damn thing to fit on a Socket 939 motherboard, you have to remove the plastic bracket that the stock cooler clips on to, and replace it with the one supplied with the Enzotech. Again, easier said than done. Firstly, disconnect everything and unscrew the motherboard, then have a go, only to discover that the stock bracket is secured on by some plastic clips that are absolutely impossible to get off.

Eventually I just gave up and put the stock cooler back on and connected everything back up. I had another panic attack when the machine refused to boot, but when I'd calmed down I discovered that the RAM wasn't in properly. Everything works fine now, but I'm still sitting with my stock cooler, and I used up the Arctic Silver supplied with the Enzotech to get the stock cooler back on, so that's gone too.

So, why am I posting this? Well, it's now obvious to me that I'll never get this thing in on my own - so, if anyone in the Durban area with some really good modding skills doesn't mind driving up to Kloof to install this damn thing for me, I'd be really grateful.

ADV4NCED · Post by **ADV4NCED** » 24 Jun 2007, 20:50

LOL dude, I installed mine no problems

Also, why did you use a whole tube of AS5 for the cooler? You know you supposed to use like 1/2 drops max ....

Cant you cut the plastic clips ??

Post by **Ron2K** » 24 Jun 2007, 21:01

I dunno. Suppose I'm probably just being thick again.

RobThePyro · Post by **RobThePyro** » 24 Jun 2007, 21:56

i would come help dude but i dont have a car....

Post by **KillerByte** » 24 Jun 2007, 22:08

dude, i'll pick up my cooler during th eweek, either tomorrow or tuesday, then on the weekend i'll come up and help.

unfortunately, I can't install my cooler because my board died, so I have to drop that off at rectron tomorrow.

Post by **Ron2K** » 25 Jun 2007, 08:41

Cool, thanks.

I'll first have to find somewhere where I can pick up some more Arctic Silver, as I used up the supply that came with the Enzotech fitting the stock cooler back on...

Post by **KillerByte** » 25 Jun 2007, 09:49

i don't know how you did that but we can use some of mine.

my last tube lasted my like 18 months.

haja · Post by **haja** » 25 Jun 2007, 10:04

you mean you don't coat the whole heatsink in that stuff?

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Jun 2007, 11:52

Ouch. Sorry to hear that dude

RobThePyro · Post by **RobThePyro** » 25 Jun 2007, 18:46

remember the key with heatpaste is: when you think you dont have enough, you allready have too much!!!!!!!

haja · Post by **haja** » 25 Jun 2007, 19:52

i dunno. I tend to disagree slightly. I went to the arctic silver website and saw how they put only the tiniest drop in the centre. Now IMHO that would not spread out far, certainly not towards the outside of the chip,
I understand that the centre has the highest heat concentraion and what not, but the more surface area you have conducting heat through to your heatsink, the better obviously.

I prefer a very very thin layer over the whole chip surface, to transfer the most heat. yes, the guys at Arctic silver obviously know more than me about it, but I would just be uneasy putting so little on

but ye, a whole tube on one heatsink is a weeeeeeeeeeee bit much

Xiphan · Post by **Xiphan** » 25 Jun 2007, 20:01

KillerByte wrote:i don't know how you did that but we can use some of mine.

my last tube lasted my like 18 months.

And that's after it did its rounds! :biggrin: With heatpaste I guess the less is more applies, you only have to use a minuscule amount!

RobThePyro · Post by **RobThePyro** » 25 Jun 2007, 20:51

serriously i was doing that, putting a small amount on and spreading it evenly and my C2D was like ~30'c then i followed the instructions and put like a line of ceramique adn it dropped temps to like ~26'c, i took the cooler off and it was just like an oval of heatpaste in the middle, i redid it again with slightly less paste and dropped tempes to ~22-24'c!!!!!! even though it wasnt even over the whole thing

Hex_Rated · Post by **Hex_Rated** » 25 Jun 2007, 22:11

You only need a tiny bit. The paste is to fill in the tiny scratches and indentations on the IHS and on the heatsink, increasing the surface area.

Post by **KillerByte** » 31 Jul 2007, 21:07

have you managed to install the cooler yet Ron?

Life's been hectic thats why I haven't come round yet.

Post by **Ron2K** » 31 Jul 2007, 21:29

It's installed, courtesy of our friendly office hardware supplier.

Post by **KillerByte** » 31 Jul 2007, 21:44

& ur temps?

amd64 · Post by **amd64** » 01 Aug 2007, 07:34

Ron2K wrote:I dunno. Suppose I'm probably just being thick again.

Didnt Eric and I teach you anythin at CTI?

Post by **Ron2K** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:15

amd64 wrote:Didnt Eric and I teach you anythin at CTI?

Yes. "Smashing Old Hardware Into Microscopic Pieces 101."

KillerByte wrote:& ur temps?

Haven't overclocked it yet. Need to get some advice from someone who knows what he's doing. I've thought of giving I34z1k a PM, but I've been hecticly busy (as usual) so haven't really gotten around to that yet.

Hman · Post by **Hman** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:22

Then post your machine's specs.

amd64 · Post by **amd64** » 01 Aug 2007, 08:46

Ron2K wrote:
amd64 wrote:Didnt Eric and I teach you anythin at CTI?
Yes. "Smashing Old Hardware Into Microscopic Pieces 101."

only but the finest in education

eraser · Post by **eraser** » 01 Aug 2007, 09:48

amd64 wrote:
Ron2K wrote:
amd64 wrote:Didnt Eric and I teach you anythin at CTI?
Yes. "Smashing Old Hardware Into Microscopic Pieces 101."
only but the finest in education

I got 101% in that subject when i was at CTI!

Post by **Ron2K** » 01 Aug 2007, 10:38

Hman wrote:Then post your machine's specs.

Just the relevant bits then.

AMD X2 4400+ (Socket 939)
Gigabyte K8N Pro-SLI motherboard
2GB Corsair DD400 XMS Pro RAM (you know, the memory modules with the LEDs)

I don't think the rest of it makes that much difference. (If I'm wrong, flame me and call me a noob, and I'll post the rest up.)

Post by **KillerByte** » 01 Aug 2007, 10:47

YOU ARE A NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol. dude, you have nice looking RAM but no window.

i need to Julian to OC at least a bit before he goes to Italy.

Hman · Post by **Hman** » 01 Aug 2007, 10:59

KillerByte wrote:i need to Julian to OC

Wait, what?!

Ok, your CPU should be running at 2GHz (I think). So first things first. in your bios reduce your HTT multiplier to 4x default should be 5x. Then lock your PCI-E / PCI bus to default speeds (I hope your mobo can do this). Then lower your memory multiplier by one setting(again, I don't know what your mobo can do). Then if all that is sorted out push your FSB to 250 which should get your CPU running at 2.5GHz (all Athlon CPU's reach this easily). If you want to push further you'll need more Vcore voltage and further reduce the HTT multiplier and maybe even the ram, as I don't know what timings / frequencies your memory can do.