SATA RAID... Do Not DO What I Did

Post by **KillerByte** » 21 Mar 2006, 11:39

For anybody who plans to make a raid, Here is what not to do...

I have three 120gig SATA150 hard drives. I planned to make two of them into a raid array. So i backed up all my important stuff onto one of the hard drives and then I unplugged it (or I thought I did...I unplugged the wrong one, this is the part which you should check.) As I am writting this my friend is rolling on the floor laughing at my stupidity. I could could cry, all my illegal software and games are gone. This is bad. I am now stuck with 55giggs of music and 20gigs of movies that I cannot play or watch. This is no the moment for a LOL.

Here is a picture of what my PC looked like lats night during this experience.

Kankuro · Post by **Kankuro** » 21 Mar 2006, 12:28

Shame, all your illegal stuff is gone. Poor you.

jee · Post by **jee** » 21 Mar 2006, 13:25

please excuse my ignorance.. but why did you lose the info?

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 21 Mar 2006, 13:35

I think he is crying because he put the HDD with all his backed up info into the RAID array, instead of the the one he had cleaned.

Edit: Have I mentioned that I'm not a fan of RAID in the desktop environment

One of the reasons is exactly this... Silly mistakes that cause loss of data

wizardofid · Post by **wizardofid** » 21 Mar 2006, 13:46

Don't blame me I only told the guy that sata should be faster in raid. 8O

*Edit what raid did you format to?stripped?

Dom · Post by **Dom** » 21 Mar 2006, 14:36

Kankuro wrote:Shame, all your illegal stuff is gone. Poor you.

Exactly...

Post by **KillerByte** » 22 Mar 2006, 08:31

yup it was stripped. I gained barely any performance increase and just a whole lot of hassle.

So I reformated, ditched the array and went back to normal

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Mar 2006, 10:51

Thrall will agree with me again, as i've said this before:

YOU DESERVED WHAT YOU GOT

Ditch the illegal stuff and go legit. Illegal stuff is for sissies.

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 22 Mar 2006, 11:03

Wow, KillerByte - you are taking a pounding in the forums today, bra

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 22 Mar 2006, 11:09

Same Case and Headset as me...

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 22 Mar 2006, 11:11

Oopsie...

Cupis · Post by **Cupis** » 22 Mar 2006, 11:24

I support ligal stuff but they are currently milking the consumer so i in effect don't support the South African way of selling things. i mean you go to america and pay next to nothing to get the latest games and hits while by the time it comes to south africa you have to pay a sht load for your software. i try go legal where i can but there are some area s where i strain and go illigal. someone that has no money to spend.

look at it guys windows = +-1000
20 top games = (400*20) = 8000
apps etc = 500

who has that money? i don't! i try my best but there is just so much people can get.

sorry a bit off topic but back to the topic. how much better is a RAID setup compared to a single setup?

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 22 Mar 2006, 11:26

Cupis wrote:how much better is a RAID setup compared to a single setup?

Not much, and not worth the risks involved, IMO. Especially with striping.

Hex_Rated · Post by **Hex_Rated** » 22 Mar 2006, 11:38

RAID 0 is only worth it if you have dual core to cope with the extra bandwidth available. I saw a huge improvement when moving to RAID 0.

There can be a lot of hassle involved though.

Rash50 · Post by **Rash50** » 22 Mar 2006, 12:24

You can't afford original software but can afford 3x 120gb hdd's and have a Thermaltake Tsunami case with who knows what else? I think you deserved it. btw. Where do you buy your games from that you pay R400 for them? The standard price is 'bout R320.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Mar 2006, 12:44

Also, the fact that stuff is expensive doesn't make it okay to steal it.

I want an FX-60, but it's expensive, do you see me stealing one? No.

And as it's been said, games generally cost around 300 bucks, not 400. Stop exaggerating.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » 22 Mar 2006, 15:48

R400 is roughly the price for a PSP\PS2 game...

Most PC games are in the vicinity of R270-R300.

Oj · Post by Oj » 22 Mar 2006, 17:04

RAID is only good for stuff like vid editing, as with most other operations there are multiple small files being accessed. For example, loading a levels in FarCry, etc, the level might be 1 large file, but that file is many zipped files, and because small files don;t gain from RAID 0 (much) it is entirely useless if you consider the risk.

And that's a fact

Cupis · Post by **Cupis** » 23 Mar 2006, 11:28

i don't buy games often.....

i wish i could and i don't own fancy hardware either almost every single piece of hardware i own is second hand!!!! and the game thing i saw at places like cna and incredible connection for about 400 thats for the nyc games people like fear i am not talking about the crap games

Oj · Post by Oj » 23 Mar 2006, 13:01

8O Well said DAE

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 23 Mar 2006, 13:17

Cupis, you're talking nonsense. I bought my copy of FEAR for R300. There are not many games for over R300. Call of Duty 2 was more though, but that's an exception to the rule.

Hex_Rated · Post by **Hex_Rated** » 23 Mar 2006, 13:24

And as it's been said, games generally cost around 300 bucks, not 400. Stop exaggerating.

No they don't! They cost R50 at the robot and R60 at the flea market near my house! The guys swear that they are all original.

Joking.

RAID 0 (much) it is entirely useless if you consider the risk.

And that's a fact

You get about a +- 25% reduction in load times from a max theoretical of 50%. Maybe not worth it to some people but I would never go back to a normal single drive config. Although most games have large compressed DAT files that are split into smaller files, the nature of these files is still very much continuos.

At the end of the day, if you are impatient and power hungry like me, RAID 0 is worth it. It doesn't flat out double your speeds, but it is definately noticable. Software RAID is a complete and utter waste of time. Only use it if you want to slow your PC down.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 23 Mar 2006, 13:32

Wow Hex, you seem pretty adament about RAID. I have two identical Hitachi 160GB SATA2 disks, i think i'll RAID them for a few days and see if i like it. The thing that's holding me back is that i Format windows and re-install it every few weeks, so then my RAID array will be corrupt, but i'll back up onto another 160GB i have lying in my room and see if i like it.

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 23 Mar 2006, 13:36

Hex_Rated wrote:You get about a +- 25% reduction in load times from a max theoretical of 50%.

About 25%

Max theoretical of 50%

No, I dont think so.

There is no way you can attribute a 25% decrease in game load times solely to RAID0.

Mouba · Post by **Mouba** » 23 Mar 2006, 14:27

Hipocrites, someone who says that they have never copied something from anyone can not be entirely truthfull.
How many MP3's and Anime change hands during Lans.
I don't agree with the pricing structure is SA, and I am sure that if a FX-60 could be copied AMD would be in trouble.
And if it comes to software (especially Microsoft) I am sure that you know that uncle Bill is the grandaddy of stealing, especcially someone elses ideas.