Water Cooling - Starter Kit

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 22 Feb 2006, 10:41

Hi Guys,

I know this topic has been exhuasted so lets make it short and sweet.

I dont overclock too much, so I want something that will drop temps (not drastically), look good in my case and not break the bank.

My choice would be <FlameKit On> Thermaltake's new Big Water 745 </FlameKit Off>

Thank for any suggestions
MM

Post by **Anakha56** » 22 Feb 2006, 10:49

What about this gigabyte one?

*edit*

moving this to cooling as it belongs there

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 22 Feb 2006, 11:01

Not bad, Thermaltake looks better quality though

MM

Post by **Anakha56** » 22 Feb 2006, 11:08

well google for thermaltakes results in a test and see who comes up tops. i dont know if xbit have tested the thermal take ones.

another website to try is www.anandtech.com.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Feb 2006, 11:42

AAAAHHHH!!!! DONT BUY THERMALTAKE!!!!!!

Man, how many times is this going to be said?! I think someone should put a huge banner on the forums somewhere telling everyone that they shouldn't even ASK about thermaltake junk.

You'd be better off cooling your stuff with mashed potatoes than with thermaltake's useless water cooling.

Where's Carly? He will tell you everything you DON'T wanna know about TT.

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 22 Feb 2006, 11:47

Sorry I tend to disagree

http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/ ... 5/pg4.html

The Bigwater 745 ran the CPU 17'c cooler than the stock cooler.

MM

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Feb 2006, 11:56

Ag dude, GO AND BUY THERMALTAKE THEN.

There have been 5 million other people on this forum that have said that thermaltake is useless, so by all means, buy it. You ask for some advise, i give it. That's all. If you want TT junk, buy it, it'll be a very expensive lesson that you'll have to learn the hard way, just as i did. I would rather cool my hardware with heatsinks made out of my dog's hair than with TT.

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 22 Feb 2006, 12:04

Ok instead of giving a "DONT BUY IT JUST BECAUSE" reply, just explain to me the problems you had in the past and I will be more than willing to take your advise, advise like just dont buy it is quite useless!

Futs · Post by **Futs** » 22 Feb 2006, 12:10

poor dog

Tt is a good entry level, it would be better if we could all spend R2000 on warer cooling but sadly it aint in most guys' budget to do so.

I showed you my temps and that was on the BW120 and it only cost me R650

To each his own and I wouldn't mind getting what DJV got but if you are on a budget Tt would be better then none.
The 745 seems to have a nice radiator with dual fans pretty nice.

Else speak to DJV to get some of them dog's hairs or the mash potatos.

Post by **Anakha56** » 22 Feb 2006, 12:30

im with MadMike DJV, instead of brand bashing rather give us real reasons why we shouldnt use it...

Syndicate · Post by **Syndicate** » 22 Feb 2006, 12:32

DAE_JA_VOO wrote:AAAAHHHH!!!! DONT BUY THERMALTAKE!!!!!!

Man, how many times is this going to be said?! I think someone should put a huge banner on the forums somewhere telling everyone that they shouldn't even ASK about thermaltake junk.

You'd be better off cooling your stuff with mashed potatoes than with thermaltake's useless water cooling.

Where's Carly? He will tell you everything you DON'T wanna know about TT.

I'm here, at least there is someone who said it first, but JasonHK will also tell you, the water pumps pack up after a while, the reservoirs leak, and are poorly constructed, I think your better off buying the cool wave 3 kit if you want a cheap cooling kit, or a second hand astek water chill.

Post by **Anakha56** » 22 Feb 2006, 12:43

i love the way no-one ever mentions the gigabyte one... only person i know with exp on it is Mr Bean...

thank you Carly for good explanation

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 22 Feb 2006, 12:44

Carly,

Thanks for the <b>constructive</b> feedback, I will do as you suggest and look for another cooling kit ie cool wave 3. Last thing I need are leaks in my setup 8O

Cheers
MM

MongwopMan · Post by **MongwopMan** » 22 Feb 2006, 13:20

Or you could go the coolermaster aquagate mini, pre-assembled kit with radiator tubing everything straight outta the box!

Post by **ryanrich** » 22 Feb 2006, 13:35

I'd recommend Koolance products, been using them for a couple years now and had no trouble whatsoever!

You guys can't say ALL TT products are bad. Their PSU's are notoriously bad, but I'm not so sure about the other products, I've seen some good quality cases etc.

MongwopMan · Post by **MongwopMan** » 22 Feb 2006, 16:09

koolance products are awesome!!!

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Feb 2006, 16:37

Sorry i wasn't here to give "constructive" advice, i went to class. I had an Aquarius 3 at one stage, and my temps actually went up after installing it. It was useless. The thermal paste supplied was even worse, not containing ANY silver. Sick.

Just stay away from TT. Futs has some nice temps, he told me a few days ago, and i have no idea how he gets them, but he's one of the lucky few.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 22 Feb 2006, 19:58

ryanrich wrote:I'd recommend Koolance products, been using them for a couple years now and had no trouble whatsoever!

You guys can't say ALL TT products are bad. Their PSU's are notoriously bad, but I'm not so sure about the other products, I've seen some good quality cases etc.

Oh crap...don't get me involved aswell! I feel like crapping myself!

The only good thin TT has is there cases...but!...i got a Tsunami as temp case while modding the P180...and guess what...my CPU temp went up with 5*Cand my ambient with like 8*C...so that goves you an idea!

just go here...read the topics and you are good to get watercooled!

http://www.systemshock.co.za/forums/ind ... owforum=50

Post by **ryanrich** » 22 Feb 2006, 20:03

I don't own any TT stuff, and don't plan to...

Just saying, it can't possibly all be crap!

Well here's an example of how my Koolance stuff runs.

I have a 2500+ clocked at 3200+. My water cooling is hooked up to the CPU, Northbridge and X800XT PE. Idles under 40C and max load I've seen is 48C... My X800XT PE idles at 37C and load 42C.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Feb 2006, 20:12

Some of the TT cases are good looking, i must admit, but only a few. The Tsunami is probably the best looking. The Tsunami Wikid is running is my old one, i enjoyed it, but airflow was not too good.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 22 Feb 2006, 20:20

At Ryan...this is not an attack but an example...

how good do you think your temps are?? Be honest and say what you say to yourself everytime you see that lovely temps...i bet it's like OMF, my watercooling is kick bottom! Right?? Please answer me!

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 22 Feb 2006, 20:22

Thermaltake's "big-leak" watercooling setup

- yeah, I've seen a few complaints accross the web.

They have good cases though ja. Check-out the new Eureka.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 22 Feb 2006, 20:40

The only TT cases i'd buy now, are the PVR type cases, the home theatre cases, you know?

Post by **ryanrich** » 22 Feb 2006, 21:09

-=WiK1d=- wrote:At Ryan...this is not an attack but an example...

how good do you think your temps are?? Be honest and say what you say to yourself everytime you see that lovely temps...i bet it's like OMF, my watercooling is kick bottom! Right?? Please answer me!

What the hell dude...

Actually I couldn't care less, I have water cooling because my PC is on all day and night and I want it quiet. The temps are good and I have a quiet PC, all I want... Maybe it's what you do, but I don't stare at my temps saying OMF what nice temps I have.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 22 Feb 2006, 21:31

FFS! I asked you simple question and you didn't answer me...jeeeze...is it hard...it wasn't gonna do you any damage or anything...darn, you could have just said you kiss you watercooling goodnight...i'm just kidding bru! Sorry!

Anyways...I'm sure all the TT fanboi's would have said their watercooling is kickarse...but just look at this

No...that is not 180*C...it's 18*C

Gimme a TT setup that can do this!

That is what I have learned from MrBean...

GO BIG OR GO HOME!