New GTX 260 & 280 not so hot!

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:12

True that Dude ...... True that.

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:18

yip, and that is why I am saving for the Ati 4850 ,

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:28

ATi for me next so far as well.....

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:28

I'll see what the pricing does. If the GX2 drops to around R3500 i'll take that else im gonna try and find two cheap second hand 8800gt's. My 8800GTS still runs most my games just fine.

..... after i see what ATI have up there sleeve.

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:35

im SLi'ing two GTS's at month end, which will keep me current till i want to buy a GTX280 or an ATi

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:44

what are you going to do with your GTS's ?

Hex_Rated · Post by **Hex_Rated** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:47

The GTX280 is only worth about R5.5k. Lets see how long it takes to get there.

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 17 Jun 2008, 12:47

Mow wrote:what are you going to do with your GTS's ?

PM me

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Jun 2008, 14:55

Hex_Rated wrote:The GTX280 is only worth about R5.5k. Lets see how long it takes to get there.

well, I see ti this way, the 9800GTX is selling for about R3k, the GT280GTX outperforms by about 20-40 %, so that would make it more like R4000, IMO.

Hex_Rated · Post by **Hex_Rated** » 17 Jun 2008, 15:17

At the high end, it doesn't scale evenly it's exponential. That's why I've always been a fan of SLI at the mid/high end. 2x8800GT @ R4000 excl >= GTX-280 @ R9000. At R5k - R5,5k it has the advantage of being a single card.

It's always been like that, for that last 20% of performance from a GTX to Ultra or whatever, you pay a 50% price premium. Been like this every generation.

Hopefully ATI can do something to change the current situation, I'm hoping the HD4870 is faster than the GTX-280 but to be honest I'm expecting it to be slower but priced better.

StarBound · Post by **StarBound** » 17 Jun 2008, 15:27

Answer this because to me its important. Has ATI fixed its ratio scaling for widescreens? Or is it still an nvidia only feature?

UsMarshal · Post by **UsMarshal** » 17 Jun 2008, 15:41

Hehe:

1. Never buy a new model of a graphics card as soon as it hits the market because its always over priced, wait a few months.

2. The drivers are normally not completely optimised for new architecture, so let the mature a little.

Hex_Rated · Post by **Hex_Rated** » 17 Jun 2008, 15:51

1. Good advice.
2. The architecture hasn't really changed that much, they've just increased the number of functional units. I doubt that there are huge gains to be had from drivers.

Frozenfireside · Post by **Frozenfireside** » 17 Jun 2008, 15:59

At the high end, it doesn't scale evenly it's exponential. That's why I've always been a fan of SLI at the mid/high end. 2x8800GT @ R4000 excl >= GTX-280 @ R9000. At R5k - R5,5k it has the advantage of being a single card.

Hex_Rated you are the kind of buyer that caused a massive upsurge in the mid value bit of the market.
and so am I.

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:03

The sad part of it all is, there is some 11 year old kid that willl get his daddy to buy him one of them just to say that he has the biggest e-penAs.

terminator2 · Post by **terminator2** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:11

PhReaK_K wrote:The sad part of it all is, there is some 11 year old kid that willl get his daddy to buy him one of them just to say that he has the biggest e-penAs.

LOL LOL LOL thats so true

andyddr · Post by **andyddr** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:14

We've just dropped the price of the EVGA GTX 280 to R7899.00.
It's the best I can do for now.

Let's hope ATI can release a great card at a good price. That'll drive prices right down.

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:15

Frozenfireside wrote:
At the high end, it doesn't scale evenly it's exponential. That's why I've always been a fan of SLI at the mid/high end. 2x8800GT @ R4000 excl >= GTX-280 @ R9000. At R5k - R5,5k it has the advantage of being a single card.
Hex_Rated you are the kind of buyer that caused a massive upsurge in the mid value bit of the market.
and so am I.

agreed on that i only buy mid range

*edit* and am sorely tempted by the high end

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:17

andyddr wrote:We've just dropped the price of the EVGA GTX 280 to R7899.00.
It's the best I can do for now.

Let's hope ATI can release a great card at a good price. That'll drive prices right down.

any idea on when those will release andy?

PS: when can you foresee a decent price drop in the gtx280?

PhReaK_K · Post by **PhReaK_K** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:42

andyddr wrote:We've just dropped the price of the EVGA GTX 280 to R7899.00.
It's the best I can do for now.

Let's hope ATI can release a great card at a good price. That'll drive prices right down.

nice price drop .. Still crap "duur"

andyddr · Post by **andyddr** » 17 Jun 2008, 17:05

I can't say yet (NDA) but it's soon

We'll probably only see a price drop when the 4870X2 is released although nVidia do at times drop prices within the first two weeks of a product launch.
Problem is the retailers don't always abide to nVidia's rules and will keep a product at the higher price (after all ppl are still buying at that price).

Vampyre_2099 · Post by **Vampyre_2099** » 17 Jun 2008, 20:36

Supposedly the ATI's will be released on the 25th. The 4850 was meant to be released sooner, but ATI kept it beck to release with the 4870, which is due on the 25th. Not sure when it will see our shores though.

Although I'm fairly sure that ATI has won this generation with the amount of people that are pledging to go ATI if their 4850's hold true to the good performance/price ratio

MadMike · Post by **MadMike** » 18 Jun 2008, 08:57

Here are some unofficial bench's, if there is any truth in them I dont know...

I have pretty much decided on the 4870X2 either way, Nvidia can suck it with their pathetic line up and costing model.

Firestrm_ZA · Post by **Firestrm_ZA** » 18 Jun 2008, 09:25

anyone seen the 260 in any stores? i can only find the 280.....

HuDiNi · Post by **HuDiNi** » 18 Jun 2008, 09:33

Prophecy has.