C++ design

Koolkat · Post by **Koolkat** » 22 Jan 2003, 18:11

anyone here know how to program C++ or know any really good resources for programming info??
 
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snipeers · Post by **snipeers** » 22 Jan 2003, 18:57

if you´re new to programming, C++ is really not a good language to start with (its actually more difficult to learn than Java). it´s better if you can start with an interpreted language first like BASIC (not Visual Basic!) and Python... then from there work your way to C and C++ (and Java).
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RiChiE · Post by **RiChiE** » 22 Jan 2003, 20:20

The fundamentals of c++ are easily grasped once one uses a language such as Visual Basic.The syntax for beginners in VB helps alot.I have taken this route and can easily code in c++ fundametals which is some basis. University will have to do the rest ;P.I´ve managed to teach myself up to now,but having it tutored to one wil definately be the best option in my opinion.
 
 KOOLKAT - There are many resources for learning c++ ...you can pickup some great books from well known book stores like I did.
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keel · Post by **keel** » 30 Jun 2003, 22:02

why not start with visual basic. its a bloody simple language. especially because the gui side of it is so easy.

Mire · Post by **Mire** » 07 Jul 2003, 16:18

I don´t agree. VB is a very unstructured language, and if one gets into the habit of unstructured coding, your C++ code is going to be unmaintainable, or even unreadable! I would suggest Delphi as a starting language, but maybe plain Pascal would be better. The GUI in Delphi/VB will just confuse you (not that this means you can´t come back later: VB kicks bottom! <IMG SRC="images/forum/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif">) . Of course the best way is just to grab a C++ book, and proceed slowly through it, with many a cup of coffee!

Last-Attacker · Post by **Last-Attacker** » 26 Feb 2004, 11:05

Ok, before another battle errupts between another C and C++ argument (or something) I would like to add this:

You can go to http://www.gamedev.net for a lot of C++ resources and so on. There is also a forum you can join to post your questions, etc. Those guys are very helpfull.

I would like to say that the best language to start at is Visual Basic. I started using VB 3.0 when I was 11. It taught me a whole lot about the way we should look at computers and programming. When you've mastered that then you can try and tackle C++, Java, etc.

But always know the basics like loops, functions, variables, etc. Because with that knowlege, you can adapt to a foreign language faster because they all support that principle.

I hope that helps

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 26 Feb 2004, 11:24

I would actually maintain that Java is a verry good language to start off with cuz you got no problems if you accidentally foreget to close a connections or remove a reference to a pointer or something.

+ there are more helpful stuff on the net for Java than for any other lan.

Last-Attacker · Post by **Last-Attacker** » 26 Feb 2004, 12:25

Well VB.NET also has good Garbage collection and the help on MSDN is also a lot.

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 26 Feb 2004, 12:27

Yeah you know and with all that it is still slower than any Java application.

.NOT or .NET it sucks eather way.

Post by **Synkronos** » 26 Feb 2004, 12:46

C# is great. Makes a lot of things _much_ easier to code. Plus there are a lot of jobs out there atm for people with .NET experience (alas, mostly VB.net, which is what I've been forced into at the moment. Sucks to be me)

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 26 Feb 2004, 12:53

Synkronos wrote:C# is great. Makes a lot of things _much_ easier to code. Plus there are a lot of jobs out there atm for people with .NET experience (alas, mostly VB.net, which is what I've been forced into at the moment. Sucks to be me)

Last-Attacker · Post by **Last-Attacker** » 26 Feb 2004, 15:37

Actually it depends on what Java development app you're using. Most of Java apps, are actually interpreters while the new VB.NET is no longer that but it is compiled and runs like C++. And its more structured programming like its predecessors.

Adelante · Post by **Adelante** » 26 Feb 2004, 22:52

nah kuk man, i went from knowning nothing about programming, not even pascal and jumped right into c++, honestly, it isnt that hard, the concept of it is fairly straight forward. and the best thing about it is, once u have jumped in the deepend and learnt C++, all the other languages suddenly seem to easy to you.

Post by **Thrall** » 26 Feb 2004, 23:03

Based on what you lads have been nattering about, I went out today and bought a big Teach-Yourself-Java book. Looked for C++, but they only had Visual C++, so I went for Java instead.

Now to download that 126Mb JDK...

snipeers · Post by **snipeers** » 26 Feb 2004, 23:43

Adelante wrote:nah kuk man, i went from knowning nothing about programming, not even pascal and jumped right into c++

quite shows that Martians have higher learning curves that e3rthlings.

happy?

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 27 Feb 2004, 08:53

Thrall wrote:Now to download that 126Mb JDK...

I can mail it to you if you would like?

Post by **Thrall** » 27 Feb 2004, 10:31

Um....thanks, but no thanks. I doubt 126Mb would fit into my teeny 10Mb pop3 mailbox - I'll get it later

RuadRauFlessa · Post by **RuadRauFlessa** » 27 Feb 2004, 10:35

Rather go and get the netbeans version. It is bundled with the Netbeans IDE. It uses the standard IDE + then you get one killer IDE