ATI... erm, AMD vs nVidia!

[Mystical_Titan]

Does anyone here use (or has used) OCCT for testing your cards temps / OCs? It seems to put your card under more stress than other apps and also has a error checker, so it seems like a solid program.

[The_Jelly]

i havent personally but have seen alot of other users using it.... what are u using at the moment M_T

[Mystical_Titan]

I usually use FurMark, but Kombustor also looks cool and OCCT works pretty well.

[The_Jelly]

Also use kombuster and furmark... Will give occt a go and let u know what I think of it....

[Smilodon111]

theres a \lso a program call gpu caps viewer - its not really that stress heavy - but its got different Cuda apps & tesselation tests.havent used it personally - but ppl say the apps look pretty lol

[Molean]

I know this may not be the most ideal place to post this, but didn't think it warranted a whole new thread.

How much could I sell a 2year old MSI Geforce 285 GTX for? In perfect working order.

Thanks!

[StarBound]

See that's why you have the buy and sell forums. But if I had to throw out a ball park figure... R800-R1000. Why? because a 460GTX is about R1400 and that has good performance and DX11 vs the 285GTX which has bragable speed but is only DX10.

[Molean]

Thanks! Thats all I needed to know...

[RuadRauFlessa]

I'd rather buy the 460GTX

[Mystical_Titan]

Pics of the new Asus 580 RoG card here:

http://www.guru3d.com/news/asus-rog-mat ... 80-photos/

Think I still like the DCII version more.

[StarBound]

Well boys and girls, here is a link to Toms hardware with 3D gaming AMD vs Nvidia:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tri ... ,3019.html

After reading this I feel that having gone the rout of a 3d vision screen might have been the better option for stereoscopic gaming. ...however my S23A950D is running 120hz so screw that. My games run super smooth

[Mystical_Titan]

*wrong thread for this post*

[D3PART3D]

I'm upgrading, should I get a board with PCIe 3.0? What are the chances of new cards making use of that bandwidth over the next couple of years?

[THE_STIG]

I doubt weather it would make much difference, and most of the claimed advantages of 3.0 are just marketing attempts. Do you remember when AGP 8X came along, they said it was 2x faster than 4X but in reality it was no faster.

[StarBound]

USB3 and SATA6 is a must. PCI-E 3.0 might offer the answer to the 580gtx bottleneck. Since this is the AMD/nvidia thread what are you looking at getting?

[D3PART3D]

I doubt weather it would make much difference, and most of the claimed advantages of 3.0 are just marketing attempts.

Seems so.

USB3 and SATA6 is a must.

Yup.

PCI-E 3.0 might offer the answer to the 580gtx bottleneck.

Sorry, which bottleneck are you referring to?

Since this is the AMD/nvidia thread what are you looking at getting?

I like the MSI P67A-GD53, but we don't seem to have them locally. Looking at alternatives.

[StarBound]

PCI-E 3.0 might offer the answer to the 580gtx bottleneck.

Sorry, which bottleneck are you referring to?

Basicly benchmarking a i7 3930k at stock, overclocked, 3960X, 2600K overclocked with an 580GTX yields the same frame rate in games even though the numbers where graphics aren't concerned is 30-50% higher. Hence 580GTX = bottleneck on performance.

But if your going for pure gaming value a 2600K or even if you have to scale down to a 2500K your going to get a damn good deal. My one friend bought an i5 2500k, radeon 5770 and 8gb ram and he is so happy with his purchase even though he was looking for a 560ti. But he upgraded from a laptop so this is heaven to him

[D3PART3D]

d'oh, you didn't just mean mobo, I need more caffeine

Yeah, I'm definitely going with a 2500k. GPU wise, I'm going to see if I can hold off until next gen, otherwise a GTX570. Ram is cheap so 8gb too.

Basicly benchmarking a i7 3930k at stock, overclocked, 3960X, 2600K overclocked with an 580GTX yields the same frame rate in games even though the numbers where graphics aren't concerned is 30-50% higher. Hence 580GTX = bottleneck on performance.

Ah, I see. I remember that from the Battlefield 3 benchmarks.

[D3PART3D]

Anandtech AMD Radeon HD 7970 Review

[StarBound]

Very interested in the zero power state.

The card looks interesting. But ultimately the reason to stay away from this card is the same reason to stay away from the 8500 all those years ago ...drivers.

[Mystical_Titan]

The 7970 looks like an awesome card. AMD is definitely "King of the Hill" for the time being.

[StarBound]

Doubt they will have a moment in the sun like ATI had back when the geforce FX series was released to combat their 9000 series. For now they might shine but has their driver issue been sorted? The card does beat the 580GTX in performance and power. I am very eager to see how Nvidia responds (because I am buying the next best single gpu card next year ) and want to see how it does compared to AMD.

If anything will count against AMD though its the driver quality. Dont want to let physx go but havent seen it perform that much better.

[Mystical_Titan]

Eager to see how two of them scale.

[StarBound]

As I've said I've abandoned multi GPU options. Scaling is 80-100% framerate increase but I would like to have a look at that ms charts to see if the cards renders the frame rate in the same ms range or not.

[Mystical_Titan]

I believe in multiple GPU systems. Most of the time it's slightly cheaper and better performing to combine two smaller cards.