4XXX, 5XXX or ???? help me choose pls

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I need a new graphics card, I was actually thinking of upgrading but my screencard decided for me and died of cancer during a game of mw2. (circa a fight where 2 nubs where calling each other foul stuff "jou ma se" *sigh*)

Anyyyy ways, I am thinking of a HD5850. Will it last a while, do they have issues.

Been doing some research they seem solid but some people do complain of random crashes ati style.

the HD5770 sound tempting, cheap but is it too cheap?

any other cards worth while?

thnx

p.s my 8800gts is going to be sticked into an oven :twisted: some people say it fixes dead cards, so I would like to try it but that will be much later on :lol:
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Dude... look in the hardware section there is like 3 or 4 threads discussing cards.

Toms Hardware have the definitive say on this. See here. - And here.
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Hi,

There is a gap in the 5xxx cards, between 5770 and 5850. But i heard there will be a 5830 soon.

If i were you i would go for the 5850, its a really good card. Faster than any single nvidia GPU now.
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Puento wrote:Hi,
But i heard there will be a 5830 soon.
AMD Press Release wrote:
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ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5830 GPU Specifications

* 1.04 billion 40nm transistors
* TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
o 800 Stream Processing Units
o 40 Texture Units
o 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
o 16 Color ROP Units
* DDR3/GDDR3 memory interface
* PCI Express 2.1 x16 bus interface
* DirectX® 11 support
o Shader Model 5.0
o DirectCompute 11
o Programmable hardware tessellation unit
o Accelerated multi-threading
o HDR texture compression
o Order-independent transparency
* OpenGL 3.2 support1
* Image quality enhancement technology
o Up to 24x multi-sample and super-sample anti-aliasing modes
o Adaptive anti-aliasing
o 16x angle independent anisotropic texture filtering
o 128-bit floating point HDR rendering
* ATI Eyefinity multi-display technology2,3
o Six independent display controllers
+ Drive up to six displays simultaneously with independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls, and video overlays
o Display grouping
+ Combine multiple displays to behave like a single large display
* ATI Stream acceleration technology
o OpenCL support14
o DirectCompute 11
o Accelerated video encoding, transcoding, and upscaling4,5
+ Native support for common video encoding instructions
* ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU technology6
o Dual GPU scaling
* ATI Avivo HD Video & Display technology7
o UVD 2 dedicated video playback accelerator
o Advanced post-processing and scaling8
o Dynamic contrast enhancement and color correction
o Brighter whites processing (blue stretch)
o Independent video gamma control
o Dynamic video range control
o Support for H.264, VC-1, and MPEG-2
o Dual-stream 1080p playback support9,10
o DXVA 1.0 & 2.0 support
o Integrated dual-link DVI output with HDCP11
+ Max resolution: 2560x160012
o Integrated DisplayPort output
+ Max resolution: 2560x160012
o Integrated HDMI 1.3 output with Deep Color, xvYCC wide gamut support, and high bit-rate audio
+ Max resolution: 1920x120012
o Integrated VGA output
+ Max resolution: 2048x153612
o 3D stereoscopic display/glasses support13
o Integrated HD audio controller
+ Output protected high bit rate 7.1 channel surround sound over HDMI with no additional cables required
+ Supports AC-3, AAC, Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio formats
* ATI PowerPlay™ power management technology7
o Dynamic power management with low power idle state
o Ultra-low power state support for multi-GPU configurations
* Certified drivers for Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP

Speeds & Feeds

* Engine clock speed: 500 MHz
* Processing power (single precision): 0.8 TeraFLOPS
* Polygon throughput: 500M polygons/sec
* Data fetch rate (32-bit): 80 billion fetches/sec
* Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 20 Gigatexels/sec
* Pixel fill rate: 8 Gigapixels/sec
* Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 32 Gigasamples/sec
* Memory clock speed: 800 MHz DDR3/GDDR3
* Memory data rate: 1.6 Gbps DDR3/GDDR3
* Memory bandwidth: 25.6 GB/sec
* TDP: 24 Watts

1. Driver support scheduled for release in 2010.
2. Driver version 8.66 (Catalyst 9.10) or above is required to support ATI Eyefinity technology.. Actual number of attachable monitors will vary by notebook model.
3. ATI Eyefinity technology works with games that support non-standard aspect ratios which is required for panning across multiple displays.
4. Requires application support for ATI Stream technology.
5. Digital rights management restrictions may apply.
6. ATI CrossFireX™ technology requires an ATI CrossFireX Ready motherboard, an ATI CrossFireX™ Bridge Interconnect (for each additional graphics card) and may require a specialized power supply.
7. ATI PowerPlay™, ATI Avivo™ and ATI Stream are technology platforms that include a broad set of capabilities offered by certain ATI Radeon™ HD GPUs. Not all products have all features and full enablement of some capabilities and may require complementary products.
8. Upscaling subject to available monitor resolution.
9. Blu-ray or HD DVD drive and HD monitor required.
10. Requires Blu-ray movie disc supporting dual 1080p streams.
11. Playing HDCP content requires additional HDCP ready components, including but not limited to an HDCP ready monitor, Blu-ray or HD DVD disc drive, multimedia application and computer operating system.
12. Some custom resolutions require user configuration.
13. Requires 3D stereo drivers, glasses, and display.
14. OpenCL compliant driver and SDK release scheduled for later in 2010.

Performance, technologies and features listed above can vary with specific notebook implementations. Please consult with Notebook vendor for a complete list of supported features.

ATI Radeon™ HD graphics chips have numerous features integrated into the processor itself (e.g., HDCP, HDMI, etc.). Third parties manufacturing products based on, or incorporating ATI Radeon HD graphics chips, may choose to enable some or all of these features. If a particular feature is important to you, please inquire of the manufacturer if a particular product supports this feature. In addition, some features or technologies may require you to purchase additional components in order to make full use of them (e.g. a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD drive, HDCP-ready monitor, etc.).
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This is a bit of a no brainer, really. If you can afford it, 5xxx is definitely the way to go. Possible problem is that there have been reported stock shortages in SA, so you'll have to just see where you can get one. But if it's available and affordable you'd be a bit of a dunce to go for a 4xxx instead.
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Stuart wrote:This is a bit of a no brainer, really. If you can afford it, 5xxx is definitely the way to go. Possible problem is that there have been reported stock shortages in SA, so you'll have to just see where you can get one. But if it's available and affordable you'd be a bit of a dunce to go for a 4xxx instead.
Not if they want 50cents for the 4000 series

Honestly I doubt you will go wrong with a 4890 or 5850 but Iḿ a little scared of mid range ATi cards as they seem to be a little weak.
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When will the 5830 be available locally ?

Edit : The 5850 is R1000 more than 5770, i want the in between 8)
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Hi guys,

thanks for the reply's!

I finally decided on HD5850, got one from wootware.co.za @ R2666 which is an bargain. It was either that or this:

http://www.prophecy.co.za/force3d-radeo ... 63153.html

the HD5870 for just R4125, but I decided to go with the cheaper option and get an lcd monitor. It's time for my elderly 19 LG crt to retire to my backup pc.

I can't seriously comprehend why there is such an massive price difference between makes, essentially the same 5770 card range from R1500-R2500 just the brand differs.
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Ike wrote:Hi guys,

thanks for the reply's!

I finally decided on HD5850, got one from wootware.co.za @ R2666 which is an bargain. It was either that or this:

http://www.prophecy.co.za/force3d-radeo ... 63153.html

the HD5870 for just R4125, but I decided to go with the cheaper option and get an lcd monitor. It's time for my elderly 19 LG crt to retire to my backup pc.

I can't seriously comprehend why there is such an massive price difference between makes, essentially the same 5770 card range from R1500-R2500 just the brand differs.
Niiice dude 8) Sounds great.
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Ike wrote:I finally decided on HD5850, got one from wootware.co.za @ R2666 which is an bargain.
How is your card? I'm a little cautious as VTX3D is a brand I do not recognise. Google searching only tells me that they're new, launched in September 2009.
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Rowan Kahn wrote:
Ike wrote:I finally decided on HD5850, got one from wootware.co.za @ R2666 which is an bargain.
How is your card? I'm a little cautious as VTX3D is a brand I do not recognize. Google searching only tells me that they're new, launched in September 2009.
Please come back to us with card quality etc. . . that's not a lot of money for a 5850. . . .
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I'm thinking about buying myself a HD5570 1gb or HD5670 512mb seeing as I'm a student, the cards support DirectX 11 and they are under R1000. Anyone care to comment or give me tips?
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Rather go for the HD5770 . . . will last you much longer for 400 more.
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Maybe I'll just save up and go for a HD5850... @ Rectron the HD5770 is R1000 more than the HD5670 so I'll just save up seeing as soon I'll have my own Online 'Company'.
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soz guys,

forgot about my thread. I'm really stoked with the card, seems it's a vanilla 5850. A lot more powerful than my 8800, only have one problem with bfbc2 crashes however this seems to be more a problem with the game than the card itself. ;(
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After seeing some benching from the new nvidia cards I think you can feel saticefied that you got yourself the 5850.
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