MoarIs there life after death? Theologians can debate all they want, but radiation oncologist Dr. Jeffrey Long argues that if you look at the scientific evidence, the answer is unequivocally yes. Drawing on a decade's worth of research on near-death experience—work that includes cataloguing the stories of some 1,600 people who have gone through them—he makes the case for that controversial conclusion in a new book, Evidence of the Afterlife. Medicine, Long says, cannot account for the consistencies in the accounts reported by people all over the world. He talked to TIME about the nature of near-death experience, the intersection between religion and science and the Oprah effect.
Is There Life After Death?
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Is There Life After Death?
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technically, yes... if you define "life" as a by-product of cellular interactions via amino acids... i firmly believe there is zero continuation of intelligence and using the collective hallucinations of oxygen-deprived brains is not "evidence" so much as hilarious....
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Of course there is
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Lol, superdweeb from SystemShock is a riot.
superdweeb wrote:Yes, cos even though you die, life goes on around you, therefore there is life after death.
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Before you can answer that - you have to define life.
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good luck with thatTribble wrote:Before you can answer that - you have to define life.
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Are we not just energy? Won't we return to unformed energy? If so - then until we reform - there will be no life
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I NEED PROOF!!!!
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Go stand on a street corner in Hillbrow dressed only in your underwear and wave around fistfulls of R200 notes. You've have your opportunity for proof in no time.
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Stuart wrote:Go stand on a street corner in Hillbrow dressed only in your underwear and wave around fistfulls of R200 notes. You've have your opportunity for proof in no time.
WTF, if you wanna get shot/stabbed ya
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Personally I believe there is eternal life after death and I'm not of the "need-proof" persuasion because I believe through faith. Without that faith no person that needs scientific fact and proof will ever believe in life after death because there logic tells them it's just not plausible.
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how else were you expecting to acquire proof? :/ADT wrote:if you wanna get shot/stabbed ya
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rustypup wrote:how else were you expecting to acquire proof? :/ADT wrote:if you wanna get shot/stabbed ya
...Who knows, but i agree with Jonboy there, i rate only through Faith, you'll truelly know
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We could sacrifice Prime and ask him to report back in an hour.rustypup wrote:how else were you expecting to acquire proof? :/ADT wrote:if you wanna get shot/stabbed ya
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Stuart wrote:We could sacrifice Prime and ask him to report back in an hour.rustypup wrote:how else were you expecting to acquire proof? :/ADT wrote:if you wanna get shot/stabbed ya
I voted yes.
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I would be keen on the sacrifice option too
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I voted yes.
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How can anything be "scientifically" proven without any actual proof...
There is no science in 1600 people all having the same near-death hallucination - especially when they all believed this would happen to them when they died before hand...
What about the millions of people who almost die and never report this 'phenomenon'?
There is no science in 1600 people all having the same near-death hallucination - especially when they all believed this would happen to them when they died before hand...
What about the millions of people who almost die and never report this 'phenomenon'?
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sometimes its not in the science, but in the knowing...
(this is a Ward thread....she whimpers, and the leaves before she give her opinion on the Source of Energy, and where we come from... )
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"Integrity" and "integer" both contain a Latin root meaning "whole; complete." The root sense, then, is that people may be said to be acting with integrity when their beliefs, words, and actions have a sense of unity or wholeness.
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Sure, go ahead and believe whatever you want personally, just don't try to pass what you believe to be true off as scientific fact. Call it a theory, or a hypothesis - or a mass delusion perpetuated by fear of our own mortality - but not fact.jee wrote:sometimes its not in the science, but in the knowing...
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No, cos' you're dead and as statistics have shown, that tends not to be a reversible state. [Being undead doesn't count.]
I have yet to come across any unequivocal evidence that we continue to exist as intelligent [debatable]
entities once once our bodies has suffered one or more fatal errors.
On the other paw, I wouldn't know how to disprove that all or part of our personality survives the shutdown of the rest of our bodily functions.
I'll say that I'm pretty sure, but I cannot prove it.
Sounds like faith to me.
I have yet to come across any unequivocal evidence that we continue to exist as intelligent [debatable]
entities once once our bodies has suffered one or more fatal errors.
On the other paw, I wouldn't know how to disprove that all or part of our personality survives the shutdown of the rest of our bodily functions.
I'll say that I'm pretty sure, but I cannot prove it.
Sounds like faith to me.
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questions not answered anywhere:
- geographical distribution of "cases"? - is this 'phenomenon' impacted by some environmental/cultural factor
religious distribution of "cases"? - there's a 75% chance that any one "case" will have some form of religious indoctrination
where are the numbers for "didn't actually experience anything"?....
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I think the potential for life after death exists - but it is in no means a certainty.
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I voted no. Your intelligence dies, but who you were lives on in those around you (not just in a genetic way).
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What are you smoking