running mac os on a windows xp rig duel os

smokei · Post by **smokei** » 13 Jan 2009, 11:23

Hi im really puzzled and hope someone can help. im a graphic design student who is going to have to buy a mac pc to be able to study and do my work which i do not want to do as i really enjoy windows as i have worked on windows pc's my whole life..
Is it possible to be able to run a duel operating system off my windows pc consisting of windows xp and a mac os? will it clash with any of the hardware and so on and so forth?

any help would be greatly appreciated
Chris

Zana · Post by **Zana** » 22 Jan 2009, 13:06

smokei wrote:Hi im really puzzled and hope someone can help. im a graphic design student who is going to have to buy a mac pc to be able to study and do my work which i do not want to do as i really enjoy windows as i have worked on windows pc's my whole life..
Is it possible to be able to run a duel operating system off my windows pc consisting of windows xp and a mac os? will it clash with any of the hardware and so on and so forth?

any help would be greatly appreciated
Chris

is your computer mac hardware?
I presume having a mac with intel and Nvidia parts should be able to run both OS.. I dont have a mac myself and I never tried this.
((hugs))

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 22 Jan 2009, 15:03

Um ... I know the history . But is there anything today mac does that a pc with windows cant do ? Even the design software has been ported hasn't it ?

Post by **maxxis** » 22 Jan 2009, 15:21

It is illegal to run the Mac OS on any hardware other than the Apple hardware.

Im not going to lock this topic just yet but please refrain from posting any information on how to make it happen.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 22 Jan 2009, 15:22

Mow wrote:Um ... I know the history . But is there anything today mac does that a pc with windows cant do ? Even the design software has been ported hasn't it ?

Nope, Final Cut is still exclusively Mac. as are some of the CGI programs.

Mow · Post by **Mow** » 22 Jan 2009, 16:43

Prime wrote:
Mow wrote:Um ... I know the history . But is there anything today mac does that a pc with windows cant do ? Even the design software has been ported hasn't it ?
Nope, Final Cut is still exclusively Mac. as are some of the CGI programs.

cool, thanx

garp · Post by **garp** » 22 Jan 2009, 23:04

Other than the quite frankly insane price of a mac machine is there any reason to get one? Cause you can (legally) run windows and Mac os off the same machine.

Edit: or am I missing a point here?

Zana · Post by **Zana** » 23 Jan 2009, 01:02

maxxis wrote:It is illegal to run the Mac OS on any hardware other than the Apple hardware.

Im not going to lock this topic just yet but please refrain from posting any information on how to make it happen.

?? I dont think so, if you have a legal copy of or MAC OS and legal copy of your windows... and you payed for your hardware and did not steal it ...
Then you can do what you want with the stuff you spent your money on hard earned or not, scraped or plucked.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 23 Jan 2009, 01:13

Zana wrote:
maxxis wrote:It is illegal to run the Mac OS on any hardware other than the Apple hardware.

Im not going to lock this topic just yet but please refrain from posting any information on how to make it happen.
?? I dont think so, if you have a legal copy of or MAC OS and legal copy of your windows... and you payed for your hardware and did not steal it ...
Then you can do what you want with the stuff you spent your money on hard earned or not, scraped or plucked.

no, you are bound by the eula!

I wish i could afford a mac.

there is good reason to own one. Jedi academy is still available as a mac version

PureFire · Post by **PureFire** » 23 Jan 2009, 12:52

if hes buying a mac then yes, he can install windows on it to dual boot!
just install Boot camp on your mac and enjoy windows as well!

Zana · Post by **Zana** » 23 Jan 2009, 16:43

Prime wrote:
Zana wrote:
maxxis wrote:It is illegal to run the Mac OS on any hardware other than the Apple hardware.

Im not going to lock this topic just yet but please refrain from posting any information on how to make it happen.
?? I dont think so, if you have a legal copy of or MAC OS and legal copy of your windows... and you payed for your hardware and did not steal it ...
Then you can do what you want with the stuff you spent your money on hard earned or not, scraped or plucked.

no, you are bound by the eula!

I wish i could afford a mac. there is good reason to own one. Jedi academy is still available as a mac version

You mean sillyfully generated red tape from the tickertape of conformed commercialism.
I feel you paid for it legally you can do what you want in your own personal space.. that is own hardware own machine and thats it, excluding distribution as that would result piracy.

((hugs)) me to

they are epic machines. Oh you like star wars games

I was discussing with a freind on DA of dreaming of intruducing a game "Star Wars Universe" where you can play as enything a Twi'lek table dancer, a bounty hunter, storm trooper, etc etc etc... and how in the end you get involved with the Jedi or sith and Force.

UrBaN · Post by **UrBaN** » 23 Jan 2009, 16:52

Yes Zana, you do own it. However, they only sell it to you on the basis that you DO agree to the EULA, which DOES state that you may only use MAC OS on MAC HARDWARE.

It's the same as buying a car which CAN do 200km/h, yet you agree to the sale, based on the fact that you will only drive 120km/h.

Just 'cos you CAN, doesn't mean you are legally allowed to.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 23 Jan 2009, 16:53

There is already a starwars game coming like that. set in the old republic. MMORPG

UrBaN wrote:Yes Zana, you do own it. However, they only sell it to you on the basis that you DO agree to the EULA, which DOES state that you may only use MAC OS on MAC HARDWARE.

It's the same as buying a car which CAN do 200km/h, yet you agree to the sale, based on the fact that you will only drive 120km/h.

Just 'cos you CAN, doesn't mean you are legally allowed to.

Exactly. yes it sucks but thats the rules

Zana · Post by **Zana** » 27 Jan 2009, 21:27

Prime wrote:There is already a starwars game coming like that. set in the old republic. MMORPG

UrBaN wrote:Yes Zana, you do own it. However, they only sell it to you on the basis that you DO agree to the EULA, which DOES state that you may only use MAC OS on MAC HARDWARE.

It's the same as buying a car which CAN do 200km/h, yet you agree to the sale, based on the fact that you will only drive 120km/h.

Just 'cos you CAN, doesn't mean you are legally allowed to.
Exactly. yes it sucks but thats the rules

Thanks (((hugs)) I am finding those rules hard to find any sence, well first of all the car one makes sense, the rule is enforced due to the fact that not many people had F1 training and there reflexes vary which would make 120 a general safe speed on the road than 200 unless roads were specifically desinged that the speed of 200 would be a safe speed. So life is at risk, so the law of the 120 km/h had been set for your life and safety when using the vehicle.

But, if you load windows on your mac hardware will it explode and you end up dead or hospitalized ?
Its more like wanting to put a royals royce engine in your nissan bakkie.. as an example. You wont die from it and your life isnt threaterned, infact you are improving performance of your own private vehicle. The same as your computer, you are improving things where you can run PC software and mac software on one machine. Its progress and its evolution in your own personal space.
Its more in favour to the concerns of coporations and economy than improvement in computing in general which is how it should be.
For example, remember netscape 8 browser ? I love it , why ?
It had fire fox and IE built in... websites designed for looking good in IE you slect the embeded IE engine. Sites that run better in Fire fox, you select the fire-fox engine.. now back to seperate browsers... back to back biting, etc etc etc...
I think its more a human economic commercialism issue than a law that would protect life and preserve life. Its a law that hinders evolution and improvement, as well as creativity and self learning, where the rich get richer, and the fat get fatter etc etc.

Love and hugs
((^_^))

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 27 Jan 2009, 21:35

You miss the point. Its someones intellectual property. Therefore they have the right to determine how you may use it.

Mods, i think one of you should lock this topic.

Zana · Post by **Zana** » 29 Jan 2009, 02:02

Prime wrote:You miss the point. Its someones intellectual property. Therefore they have the right to determine how you may use it.

Mods, i think one of you should lock this topic.

How can it be someones intellectual property if you baught it and its for your personal use only ? It is unethical to build it and then sell it like so, but for your own personal use in your own space to improve your own computing space, personal efficiency and integration it isnt. It is unethical however to hinder the creativity and spirit and its willingness to learn by integrating two syetems to evolve to a better system of the individual and bind them to a corporation...this is the sort of thing and thinking that has doomed humanity its self destuction or self polution, example is oil and the production of petrol and vehicles using the petrol, the ideas of humanity that revolve around money, instead of true love, respect. This is a pure sign that the corporations are on the verge of planetwide domination.

Prime · Post by **Prime** » 29 Jan 2009, 08:51

I'm sorry, this is going to come out overly harsh but stfu and stop talking ****.

Just because you bought it, doesn't give you the right to do as you please with it. If you buy a music cd, you can't freely distribute copies of it because you bought it, without permission from the original artist and publisher. Its their intellectual property, because someones brain power was spent on it. (even those really annoying artists with no brain cells or dignity)

Maybe someone else can explain it better.

Ryan_Cooper · Post by **Ryan_Cooper** » 29 Jan 2009, 08:55

why is this becoming a piracy thread........
the simple answer is it can be done as the hardware in a apple mac is the same as in any other PC (i know I have worked on them already and have OS X running on an older machine) but its not allowed and we cant say how.....end of discussion

Post by **Ron2K** » 29 Jan 2009, 08:59

Right.

You don't own the software, you only own a licence to use said software - and you are therefore bound by the terms of the licence agreement. If Apple states in their EULA that you can only run it on Mac hardware, then running it on your Windows box breaks the terms of that licence agreement, which has obvious legal ramifications. The fact that you can get it to run on standard hardware is irrelevant. As an example - anyone can go out and rape and murder someone, but is it the right thing to do?

I suggest you take up a few law courses if you still don't get the point that we're all trying to make here.

Locking. Please use the piracy thread if you want to take this further.

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