I34z1k wrote:Tribble
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I've been working out for quite a while, and I CAN tell you that USN has some of the best marketers in SA, but some of the worst products too. I'm not even joking, you can look around on the body building sites and whatever, they use very complex proteins which don't break down well. I am not saying don't use it, but maybe consider alternatives like Weider, Biogen(USN sister brand, much much better tho and one of the best tasting ones
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) and TSA are all great ones
As to Ice, I was in the same boat. I'm a big guy and when I hit 90kg I got a fright. Started working out. Took Weider Amino tablets as recommended by some guy that won Mr SA a couple of times
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Can't remember his name. You take 2 with each meal and it helps lower fat and tone your body but it's not a thermogenic which isn't really healthy. I also took some whey after each workout (Whey = fast processing protein) and a low carb meal replacement at nights.
Like Monty said though, diet > all. The supplements have just given me a boost
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I agree. It seems we all started the same, I hit 89Kgs and my pants started getting tight, although I'm 6'2" so didn't look too bad.. I began working out roughly 13 weeks ago with a cardio intensive and weight training regimen that I still use. Begin with a 10 min run at 10.5 level, burn 100KCal. Go and do two exercises for whatever muscle group I'm training that day. Follow up with 10 min orbital, burn 100KCal. Follow with another 2 muscle-group weight exercises. Finally, row for 10 mins, 100Kcal and leg raises.
For the first 6 weeks I couldn't shift the fat and turned to Hydrocuts. These were great at first because they made you FEEL like you were burning fat because you get all hot and sweaty at the gym. But when I hit 3 weeks and are taking the recommended 4 a day, I was getting nervy, anxious, irritable, battling to sleep with erratic heartrate. Then I went and checked online and all thermogenic fat burners do is hide behind "natural names" for caffeine. They all boil down to derivatives
of ECA, ephidrine, caffeine and aspirin. These do not serve to rapidly decrease fat and can mess your heart valves up, so I stopped immediately. From week 10, with eating well and keeping at the training, the blubber has started disappearing and voila, a six pack emerged. Now I'm really feeling good. I feel that I eat enough and have enough bulk to avoid protein for now, but may consider a protein shake at some stage BUT THATS IT!!!