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EA Origins Service: Stealing ALL your info...

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http://mygaming.co.za/news/pc/13634-Ori ... ately.html
EA Origin wants to know your PC, intimately

Origin EULA clause whips up a stir of privacy concerns
A storm has been brewing regarding some clauses contained in the End User License Agreement (EULA) of EA’s new Origin digital distribution portal/insidious corporate data snatching malware.

Gamers around the web have been going over the lengthy Origin EULA, and section 2 has raised some serious concerns. EA wants Origin users to consent to collection and use of data in very broad terms. While it’s not uncommon for games and their related platforms to track gaming related data (Steam immediately comes to mind, as it tracks user's hardware and Steam usage), the Origin EULA appears to be worded so that users are consenting to let EA poke about on every area of their computers. Obviously the privacy implications are tremendous if this is the case.

Some of the more concerning portions of section 2 of the Origin EULA:
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services.

EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you.
So at this point it reads as if EA can gather up information on absolutely every app and piece of hardware you use, and there is no real clarity on how far this privacy invasion extends. To top it off, they will sell this information on the third parties for marketing purposes. Don’t forget they will have your details when you signed up for the Origin service. All this wonderful ‘enhanced service’ will be your pleasure to pay for as well, since gamers will require Origin to play upcoming EA titles, such as the highly anticipated Battlefield 3.

The EULA does provide an alternative option however, lovingly laid out in capital letters:
IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN
THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION.
No Origin equals no Battlefield 3, a rather disheartening decision. Finally, section 2 ends off by stating:
This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at http://www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
Goodbye Battlefield 3 and future releases on EA Origin...
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I gave up on EA ages ago...
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Dead Space? Mirror's Edge? Certain NFS games? Crysis and Crysis Warhead? Can't imagine being a PC gamer without EA. I don't know if indie games are enough. This is terrible. :(

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I bet they'll edit the EULA though.
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Is there any kind of reverse hacking software? That when they start collecting your data you send a little something in between the lines that wipes or destroys the server?
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Can you imagine a PC without Ubisoft? You can imagine a PC without EA. I don't think that I even have any EA software on my PC ATM actually. Real life will eventually intrude into your gaming life dude.
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StarBound wrote:Is there any kind of reverse hacking software? That when they start collecting your data you send a little something in between the lines that wipes or destroys the server?
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GDI_Lord wrote:Can you imagine a PC without Ubisoft? You can imagine a PC without EA. I don't think that I even have any EA software on my PC ATM actually. Real life will eventually intrude into your gaming life dude.
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PSN was hacked, EA is doing it legally. Wanna set up a comparrison sheet between EA and anon? :P
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You'll see what real life is. Give it time...
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Would it have been as bad if our pcs only had games with no office/banking/password data ect? Because as far as ps3 goes they can check what games I am playing and how I am doing in the game and I am fine with it. But come pc with my battle.net account and steam account and all that I am not too happy that anyone can scan files and program usage at all.
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Might have something to do with the fact that PC stands for Personal Computer.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/DICE-B ... 13590.html

So you find yourself on the side where you are the victim of a wallhack or aimbot. You never know if that person gets banned. But then you stumble apon something that no CoD game has done. An enlarged player roster. But wait! Your banned because it was in between all the EA servers? And now all your EA games tied to the account has been banned to? Fantastic!

If there was ever a reason to switch from paid for EA games to the freely avalible versions found on the net now is the best time to do so. There are no licensing to agree to, no accounts that can be banned, your paid games wont stop working and best of all you wont be supporting a company that insist its untouchable with your money.

But read the article. Post your feelings. As far as I am concerned this had to be one of the most stupid ban threats ever. It makes Activision look like saints.
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StarBound wrote:Would it have been as bad if our pcs only had games with no office/banking/password data ect? Because as far as ps3 goes they can check what games I am playing and how I am doing in the game and I am fine with it. But come pc with my battle.net account and steam account and all that I am not too happy that anyone can scan files and program usage at all.
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