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hamin_aus wrote:I bought one of the first generation P4 Prescotts and regretted not going with an Athlone XP every day I had that PC...

That was then though. I think if you were to pull some figures you'd see that most gamers owned an AMD system at one point in their life, perticularly during the K6/P3/P2/Athlon/P4 days. Some might even have had Durons when the alternative pricing was Celerons.

Yes that was long ago in a land far away.

hamin_aus wrote:

THE_STIG wrote:I loved our old Athlon XP 2500. It overclocked well too, gave my hateful Pentium 4 511 a run

I know that feel

I bought one of the first generation P4 Prescotts and regretted not going with an Athlone XP every day I had that PC...

I felt even more stupid since I could have had an Athlon 64 3200+

StarBound wrote:

hamin_aus wrote:I bought one of the first generation P4 Prescotts and regretted not going with an Athlone XP every day I had that PC...

That was then though. I think if you were to pull some figures you'd see that most gamers owned an AMD system at one point in their life, perticularly during the K6/P3/P2/Athlon/P4 days. Some might even have had Durons when the alternative pricing was Celerons.

I never agreed with the k6(500Mhz) being a smart buy. I had one and it got blown away even by a 333mhz celeron

But all that was long ago. Now most gamers are running Intel with only extreme fanboys still buying AMD

THE_STIG wrote: I never agreed with the k6(500Mhz) being a smart buy. I had one and it got blown away even by a 333mhz celeron

But that was because of the gigabyte GA5AA board was it not? I think if you put it in a room with Julius it will be more hated.

Possibly. But I also have another super socket 7 board and it was even slower in there

Oh? Which one would that be?

I had the msi 440BX with a celeron 466mhz. I was in gaming heaven. Read the NAG and PCF mags that said the K6-2 500 is compareable with the P2 450mhz while my celeron was only compareable with the P2 366mhz.

My bro cried over how ***** his pc was. He could not play games. Even on low his system refused to run games properly. He had the TNT2 64 and Diablo 2 did not want to know anything about D3D. And with direct draw his game was slow while I flew through everything with my voodoo 3. It really was a terrible time.

Some OEM thing with a SIS 530 chipset.

I have a gigabyte 440BX here with a 600Mhz p3, but the one with the 133mhz bus so since 440bx does not support 133mhz I had to oc it. The ram now runs at 133mhz(from the usual 100) and the agp is at 80mhz I think. But man that thing is surprisingly fast, even runs battlefield Vietnam pretty well

But those old Celerons were legend, have two 333mhz chips and 3 500Mhz chips. Runs games of the time really well and overclocks well too

440BX never officially supported 133mhz. Intels 440BX refused it but MSIs did 133mhz. I even think that the one I had supported up to 1.133ghz P3 with the bios update.

I have the Gigabyte bx2000. Does 133mhz nicely, and if I could find one of those adaptor cards with its own clock generator I could put the 1ghz skt370 celeron I found in it. The adaptor I have now is just a slot 1 to skt 370 converter, does nothing else

where did those times go. No more adaptor things or using pencil to short contacts to unlock multipliers and such anymore

Where the heck does all this love for celerons come from? As far as I can remember they were the ****iest processors ever made.

Not the early ones. After p4 came around then they become the most awfulest cpu's that money could buy......

GreyWolf wrote:Where the heck does all this love for celerons come from? As far as I can remember they were the ****iest processors ever made.

They were but they were the most overclockable CPU before the i7 came along. You could push them to 150% because they didn't have any on chip cache or L1 cache.

But don't make the mistake that it was loved. It was hated! But its all you could afford at the time. Celeron 466mhz = R500. P2 350 = R1k, P3 1ghz = R10k

Hang on. the celerons did have on chip cache. 128k of L2 I think but like I said the early ones offered decent value but that went away and they just become utterly rubbish and not worth buying

Nope. The early ones were utter trash. They did not have any cache. The later ones might have gotten some cache but think the celerons never had any L1 cache. But beyond the 1Ghz spot they were irrelavant. AMD had Duron. Duron was relatively compareable with the Athlon and P3 although it was a bit behind. Atleast it was not like the celeron which at that point was irrelavant.

Not utter trash. Were sort of ok but yep once p4 came then there was no good reason to own one, especially with the superior Duron and then Sempron around

KALSTER wrote:Who knows, AMD might also move to 3D designs after 2014. All I am saying is that AMD is looking a whole lot better than they did a year ago and my statement is "cryptic", because it is just a feeling at this point.

I have a feeling that their deal with ARM is going to be more lucrative than anyone here can guess. Also, ARM could invade the desktop space within a few years time. Sure, they wouldn't be able to play any games or run traditional x86 apps, but for power efficiency and multi-threaded goodness they can hardly be beaten. I'm looking forward to that day.

Hi

Thinking of building a Good p.c a friend recommend i build a amd apu, As i will be able to build a quad core for under R4000 instead of i3

will use it for games , watching movies and the work

budget is R3000-R4000 dont need the following : HDD,mouse, keyboard, screen

Any ideas ?

Here you go man:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu- ... ,3175.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu- ... ,3155.html

Now you can compare performance and then get prices for your preferred supplier and make an informed choice.

Safejack wrote:Hi

Thinking of building a Good p.c a friend recommend i build a amd apu, As i will be able to build a quad core for under R4000 instead of i3

will use it for games , watching movies and the work

budget is R3000-R4000 dont need the following : HDD,mouse, keyboard, screen

Any ideas ?

You cannot build a gaming pc for that amount anymore. Thanks to the exchange rate your 5k pc is now around 7-8k and your 7-8k pc is now around 10-12k. Your cheaper FM boards will be around R1k, your ram will be around R1k for 8gb and your quad core apu will be around R1.8k. After that you don't have a windows licence, a power supply or even a case. No dvd drive either.

Intels new high end enthusiast CPU, i7 4960X, has been released.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cor ... ,3557.html

So.....who rushed out to get their FM2+ boards and Kaveri processors?

Maybe give us a link or something?

http://www.techspot.com/review/770-amd-a8-7600-kaveri/

Impressive graphics performance, but the CPU bit is still quite a bit behind. Think I'll stick with my i5 2500 for a while still.

I'd like to buy an A10-7850K (well, a plain/plane A10 would also be nice) so that I can move from my trustworthy, good old faithful E6750 and start experimenting with programming for HSA, I can't quite justify the expense right now. I mean, the computer's working fine, and with this Seagate SSD and Win8.1 x64 it's flying quite nicely!

I do have a 6670 that I can fiddle with Open CL on though...

KALSTER wrote:http://www.techspot.com/review/770-amd-a8-7600-kaveri/

Impressive graphics performance, but the CPU bit is still quite a bit behind. Think I'll stick with my i5 2500 for a while still.

I'm not sure that AMD released Kaveri with the intention of having it compete against a Core i5.