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Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 22:06
by Hman
Mystical_Titan wrote:.... only a big problem if you don't have a very good cooler, which most people do.
Stock cooler here, though I'm still on a 1156 I5 with a cheap mobo. :(

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 22:09
by THE_STIG
:lol: I am still on 775 and a Core 2 Duo. But I upgraded the cooler just so that it would look more interesting

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 22:35
by Hman
If I had a better mobo I'd get a better cooler so I can properly oc my cpu. But I'll only get a board when I stumble upon a used one someday.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 22:38
by THE_STIG
I too have a cheap little broad(G31 meh, meh, meh) and it is running at stock clocks. But with the big(ish) Cooler master tx3 on there it looks so much more interesting.....and fits in better at lans

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 22:44
by Hman
My mobo's oc options are astoundingly poor, the fastest my cpu can go with it is 3.2GHz.


WOOHOO! (sarcasm)

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 22:49
by THE_STIG
Hman wrote:My mobo's oc options are astoundingly poor, the fastest my cpu can go with it is 3.2GHz.


WOOHOO! (sarcasm)
:lol: :lol: actually for a cheap mobo mine has some decent oc options(via the gigabyte MIT menu in the bios). but it could be worse dude, you could have a cheap ECS board and trust me they have no oc options whatsoever

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 23:10
by Mystical_Titan
Guys, once you hit i5 / i7 CPUs, OCing will make no difference to your gaming, although only if you have a strong GPU. Today's titles are heavily GPU dependent. OCing actually only makes sense if you're encoding / transcoding and / or benchmarking. If I had to choose, I'd rather choose Ivy Bridge 'cause not OCing it is not going to make any difference to gaming and it's more energy efficient.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 08 May 2012, 23:15
by Hman
True, but I'd still like to get maximum bang for my bucks. And I do a fair bit of encoding and transcoding.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 08:31
by THE_STIG
Mystical_Titan wrote:Guys, once you hit i5 / i7 CPUs, OCing will make no difference to your gaming, although only if you have a strong GPU. Today's titles are heavily GPU dependent. OCing actually only makes sense if you're encoding / transcoding and / or benchmarking. If I had to choose, I'd rather choose Ivy Bridge 'cause not OCing it is not going to make any difference to gaming and it's more energy efficient.
+1. surprisingly I am not all that interesting OC'ing, it can be cool to reach high overclocks but then you shorten the life of your components and I really dont want to do that which is why I stopped running my core 2 at 3.2ghz(instead of 2.93)

Hman wrote:True, but I'd still like to get maximum bang for my bucks. And I do a fair bit of encoding and transcoding.
If you have an i5 2500k you are already getting max bang for buck

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 08:46
by Hman
Mine's pre 2500k sadly.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 08:47
by THE_STIG
Hman wrote:Mine's pre 2500k sadly.
In that case, OC :wink:

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 08:48
by StarBound
THE_STIG wrote:If you have an i5 2500k you are already getting max bang for buck
Fixed.

Well I planned on running my 3930k at 4.5ghz or 4.4ghz but the stats showed overclocking it will yield no real increase and as for gaming no increase at all. And if you go on the cheap then any i5 will do the trick. I only upgraded to replace 2 year old tech and stay up to date.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 10:50
by THE_STIG
But with games the way they are you dont need to upgrade every 2 years, you could make it last as long as 5 years

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 10:58
by Mystical_Titan
All OCing does for gaming is run up the electricity costs for 1 or 2 extra frames. :P

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 11:06
by THE_STIG
Mystical_Titan wrote:All OCing does for gaming is run up the electricity costs for 1 or 2 extra frames. :P
And give you bragging rights.

But gone are the days when after 2 years your PC is woefully slow, even if it is based on budget components

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 11:07
by Hman
As long as consoles stay weaker than a decent pc we have nothing to worry about. If the next gen of consoles were to be more powerful than what pc tech can muster we will see games that need uber components again.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 11:08
by KALSTER
But gone are the days when after 2 years your PC is woefully slow, even if it is based on budget components
Thanks goodness for that. My "old" system is still capable of better graphics than the best consoles.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 11:14
by THE_STIG
Hman wrote:As long as consoles stay weaker than a decent pc we have nothing to worry about. If the next gen of consoles were to be more powerful than what pc tech can muster we will see games that need uber components again.
True, that could make things interesting again though.

My now prehistoric core 2 still plays everything just fine, I can run the latest games in max settings(as long as I tone down the AA) at acceptable frame rates...this would not have been the case if there were no consoles about.

Also that article in last months PCF regarding the 4k AMD and 30K Intel rigs proves my point :wink:

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 11:50
by StarBound
All depends on what your happy with... and what you can afford. I am still jealous at my friend who has an i5 2500 with his radeon 5770 and his is very happy with how battlefield 3 and all his game plays. Me with my 3930k and 580gtx feels like I can get even more and want more. Until I have 120fps with graphics that matches my retina pigment count and colour varience I won't be happy.

And to think I came from owning a celeron and AMD system.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 12:26
by THE_STIG
:lol: I am like that friend then. I am happy with the results that budget components get you, if I can get it to run at max settings and a relatively smooth frame rate then I am over the moon.

that article showed that games looked and felt exactly the same on both the budget and high end system, the benchmark results were different sure but still the last gen budget rig was more than capable of producing a similar gaming experience to that of the high end rig.

Then again I had a K6-2 and I would be rejoicing if I could even get the game to start

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 12:35
by Mystical_Titan
I think it's come down to just being able to say you have the best. Some people just HAVE to have the latest.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 12:40
by THE_STIG
Mystical_Titan wrote:I think it's come down to just being able to say you have the best. Some people just HAVE to have the latest.
And some think that just because they own it, that it is the best. Like my friend when he got his core 2 many years ago, it had an E4500, a cheap gigabyte board, 1gb ram and a 8500GT. He though it was "the best stuff you can buy" and even when I got my E7500 he still though his was better :?

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 12:59
by D3PART3D
KALSTER wrote:
But gone are the days when after 2 years your PC is woefully slow, even if it is based on budget components
Thanks goodness for that. My "old" system is still capable of better graphics than the best consoles.
Unless you decide to play GTA4.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 09 May 2012, 13:13
by KALSTER
True. No big loss though.

Re: AMD vs. Intel

Posted: 10 May 2012, 17:48
by Mystical_Titan