Springbok Tour

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 15 Jul 2004, 19:46

Well I am really happy about this new thread! What are your thoughts on the upcoming Pacific Island and Tri-Nation games? I really am dissapointed that Victor Matfield is injured, he is a star in both the lineouts and the scrum.
The Islanders play a real physical game and the Boks seem to be injury prone right now. I would not have taken on thgis game if I was the coach, I think the Bokke will win but at what cost?

jee · Post by **jee** » 15 Jul 2004, 19:55

Well, all I hope is that at some stage in sport people will start to realise that when a team loose, its not always the fault of the coach....

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 15 Jul 2004, 20:00

So true, the game is actually played by the people on the field, they claim to be proffessional after all, I just hope that they play that way!

Post by **Tel** » 16 Jul 2004, 07:06

The Islanders "should" be a walk over, but with all the Bok injuries you never know...

The Coach is the strategist, the playmaker, the man that does the talking. That's probably why the coach gets blamed most of the time. Sometimes it is the coach as he doesn't know what he's doing, but other times it is just the players that aren't performing.

Hill · Post by **Hill** » 16 Jul 2004, 07:41

I am going to be watching this game keenly. I don't think the Islanders are going to be a walk over. They are a tough bunch and play hard rugby.

This is going to be a hard game. I expect them to put a lot more pressure on the boks that the Welch and Ireland did. I can't wait to see how Jake White handles the tactics.

I am a little disturbed by the fact that we are playing these guys only a week before the Tri Nations though. I expect to see a few injuries. This could be the game that costs us the Tri Nations.

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 16 Jul 2004, 09:27

This is my whole point Hill! I agree with you, they are tough and very physical with nothing to loose, in both their games against The Aus and Blacks, they resorted to high tackles and over robust play. The Aus injuries wher quite dramatic! We should win but I hope the price is not too high!

SquattingDog · Post by **SquattingDog** » 16 Jul 2004, 09:44

Will never forget that tackle on Derick in the RWC from Somoa centre.

Like you guys/girls have said this weekends encounter is not going to be easy on the bodies and minds. Expect to see alot of lost ball from the Boks, they will be keeping their eye on the incoming tackles more that they should on the ball.........

I don't expect the boks to win the Tri-Nations. They can lose all the games as long as they can so to the public that they can compete against the best of the best. I'm not looking for results, I'M LOOKING FOR IMPROVEMENT

Lets hope this weekend is not going to be a doctors operating table again. 8O

Post by **Tel** » 16 Jul 2004, 09:58

*/me grimaces in pain, remembering that tackle on Hougaard.

That was a classic tackle.

Now that you mention it SquattingDog. I don't really mind what the results are, just that there is Improvement!

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 19 Jul 2004, 08:41

Well improvement there was, but really in the first half only! The Bok forwards were devastating, played with great power and passion. Second half, not bad but they went into relax mode a bit too soon. Still a heartening performance but as we all agree, Saturday is going to be someting else! I am full of hope that our performance will be good and I am praying for rain! The All Black back line is excellent in the dry!

Rain, rain, rain!

Post by **Tel** » 19 Jul 2004, 09:14

I read the article by Nick Mallett yesterday in the Sunday Times. The Boks have got a great base forming and if they carry on like they are, SA will become a powerhouse in world rugby again.

I can't wait. As for the Boks performance, I didn't get to see the game, so I'm going on what I read in the newspaper. What it looks like is that once the Boks were far enough in the lead they lost concentration on the current game and were thinking of next week's game againt the All Blacks.

I think SA has got a real chance against the All Blacks on Saturday. Lets hope for the best.

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 23 Jul 2004, 12:02

I see the New Zealand bookies have written the Springboks off for tomorrows game, 09:30, our time. Somehow I do not quite agree with them, the game is going to be played on a wet field at a temprature of 2C! I rate the Boks higher than that and truly feel that they are in with a chance, hey seven All Black victories over us in a row cannot go on! It is our longest losing streak against any one side ever!

What do you fans think?

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 26 Jul 2004, 09:22

The Bokke played well but still too many mistakes, that last lineout throw, long to the centres cost us that last and only All Black try! We must learn to play tight in the closing minutes if we are defending a small lead. What a pity! Too many penalties, although some of them may have been contrived?
I am really hopeful for the Wallaby game in Perth next Saturday, Perth the other half of South Africa!

GO SPRINGBOKS GO

Garret · Post by **Garret** » 26 Jul 2004, 09:27

The kiwis have a saying called 'guttered'.
Well that is exactly how most people feal after the last bok game.

Well let's see how we do against the wallabies

Post by **Tel** » 26 Jul 2004, 09:32

As I said in the "Disappointed" thread. We were looking for improvement and that's what we got. A 2 point loss against the best team in the world is not bad at all.

I was particularly impresses on how the Boks defended...hard. Also I had to smile on how they took out Carlos Spencer and Justin Marshall. :bigups:

I am so looking forward to the game on Saturday against the Wallabies.

jbayman · Post by **jbayman** » 27 Jul 2004, 07:46

I agree with you envinyatar, but, the reason we lost the game is bad captaincy.
How can you take a short lineout, with only a couple of minutes left, and then just chuck the ball deep and hope for the best.
Maybe John Smith forgot that a rugby ball is not ROUND.

Post by **Tel** » 02 Aug 2004, 08:00

So close, yet so far...again.

What another awesome match!

At least the Boks have got 2 bonus points from these 2 matches. That means if we win the 2 home leg matches then there is a strong possibility that the Boks will win the Tri-Nations. w00t!

Post by **wit_skapie** » 02 Aug 2004, 08:02

Yeah, it was a good game... but the losing part made me drink a lot of beer...

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 02 Aug 2004, 08:13

Yes, I was happy with most of the play, inexperience still shows though! Line outs were atrocious but I am sure that they will improve! I think it will be a different ball game in Johannesburg and Durban! As Envi says, could lead to some interesting permutations, will be watching the Aus - NZ game with interest on the weekend! I hope Aus beat NZ!

AngryRabbit · Post by **AngryRabbit** » 02 Aug 2004, 08:25

I think we should all be really proud of the way the boks are playing. They have a new coach and an entirely new team from the one that played in last years Tri Nations. The fact that they have only narrowly lost to NZ and Aus (two very settled and confident teams) is a tribute to their immense future potential.

Give Jake a few years with this team and the bokke could well be ontop of world rugby once more.

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:24

Angry, good comments from you, I realise that you are an Aus suporter because of Rathbone, no problem man! You are obviously torn up! I would maybe

do the same, difficult to say

Aha! The plot thickens!

Angry Rabbit = Yours Sincerely,
Dayne Rathbone

Don't be embarrased about supporting the Aus team because of a relative of Rathbone's stature! He is a great player and a sad loss for us, would of loved to have had him on our side! All the very best to him and here's to his prosperous future in Australia!

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Post by **Scarlet_Spider** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:35

ye, kudo's to the springboks (kudu's

)

they played well and i was proud of them, i will be at the durban game, so if you are watching look for a guy drinking beer with his mates, should beasy to find...

Post by **Tel** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:44

Scarlet_Spider wrote:ye, kudo's to the springboks (kudu's )

they played well and i was proud of them, i will be at the durban game, so if you are watching look for a guy drinking beer with his mates, should beasy to find...

hmmm, very easy Scarlet. We will try and look past the other thousands of guys drinking beer with their mates.

I'm looking forward to those chumps coming to SA. With the way we've been playing I think we might just be able to get somewhere.

lancelot · Post by **lancelot** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:59

I certainly hope so too Envi! I will be up in Johannesburg for the Aussie game, in a box noggal!

Post by **Tel** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:11

I wish I could go too.

Post by **Scarlet_Spider** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:40

Envinyatar wrote:
Scarlet_Spider wrote:ye, kudo's to the springboks (kudu's )

they played well and i was proud of them, i will be at the durban game, so if you are watching look for a guy drinking beer with his mates, should beasy to find...
hmmm, very easy Scarlet. We will try and look past the other thousands of guys drinking beer with their mates.

I'm looking forward to those chumps coming to SA. With the way we've been playing I think we might just be able to get somewhere.

k, i'll wear a red shirt