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Cue "mouth-breathers" comments from rustypup . . .

wait a second... opera's had private tabs for some time now...

i smell a rat in the kitchen...

I like the way you are unable to comment to correct this mistake... <_<

Face it: IE pwns Opera.

To be fair though, this is from the same "expert" software review site that rates BitDefender best AV.

*waits eagerly for Tribble to stumble in*

Stuart wrote:Face it: IE pwns Opera.

To be fair though, this is from the same "expert" software review site that rates BitDefender best AV.

*waits eagerly for Tribble to stumble in*

You are evil mouse! You must suffer

Tribble wrote:

Stuart wrote:Face it: IE pwns Opera.

To be fair though, this is from the same "expert" software review site that rates BitDefender best AV.

*waits eagerly for Tribble to stumble in*

You are evil mouse! You must suffer

Sneak his darling "angel" a Red Bull...

One with huge sharp horns I hope - ones that a mousey could easily become impaled on.

Failing that - I drink the red bull and do unimaginable harm to the mouse.

I ask you - what evil must live within that mouse to make him dredge up those horrific memories. That "Client from hell" contacted me about 2 weeks ago. I ignored the message - he phoned again and *sigh* I stupidly answered. After assuring him that I am much to busy to come through to talk to the guy he has doing his computers - he asked me to phone said guy. I refused but begrudgingly agreed that said victim could contact me should he feel the need. The guy did not but as he wasn't able to get the computers to connect to the internet - the CFH insisted on phoning me and made the guy talk to me. *Sigh* poor chap - being useless is one thing, having to talk to a female to get you to sort it out - well that must just be humiliating!

rustypup wrote:wait a second... opera's had private tabs for some time now...

i smell a rat in the kitchen...

I doubt Stu could cook up those numbers.

What is the best browser for South African conditions?
Now let me qualify.... I am assuming here that hardware is not the issue, nor network reliability.
What I'm on about is the fact that very, very few people can afford a truly high-speed connection.
So lets assume everything else is in order and as an example one had to make do at best with 3G speed or less.

ghett0_ghuru wrote:What is the best browser for South African conditions?

Netscape navigator for windows 95. Old and outdated like our technology.

or something cutting edge like emacs/w3...

where graphics are crafted by hand in extended ascii and animated by messing with the electron gun timing...

ghett0_ghuru wrote:What is the best browser for South African conditions?
Now let me qualify.... I am assuming here that hardware is not the issue, nor network reliability.
What I'm on about is the fact that very, very few people can afford a truly high-speed connection.
So lets assume everything else is in order and as an example one had to make do at best with 3G speed or less.

All of them. At its core, the browser is merely a client for HTTP traffic; your choice of client makes little choice to how the underlying protocol operates.

If you're concerned about bandwidth usage, the traditional solutions (disable images, javascript, CSS) etc. are still valid. If you'd really like to go to the extreme, lynx is still in active development.

Disclaimer: I am aware that Opera has a "Turbo" mode that compresses traffic, but due to (1) the proprietary nature of the compression protocol, and (2) the fact that it relies on redirecting traffic through their servers (which then compress the data and send it to the client), I explicitly discourage use of this feature for privacy and security reasons.

ghett0_ghuru wrote:What is the best browser for South African conditions?
Now let me qualify.... I am assuming here that hardware is not the issue, nor network reliability.
What I'm on about is the fact that very, very few people can afford a truly high-speed connection.
So lets assume everything else is in order and as an example one had to make do at best with 3G speed or less.

Firefox or Chrome. Both can use Adblock Plus, which is useful for things like Youtube and Facebook where adverts take up a decent portion of your data usage. Firefox also has NoScript and Flagfox, both are really helpful for security reasons. Internet Explorer is a waste of time and as Ron2K mentioned, Opera's Turbo compresses data but it still runs through their servers. Whether they check it or not, it's still a security risk.

There is an AdBlock Plus extension for Opera as well. I use it.

Thanks guys .... AdBlock Plus seems to be giving me some joy

Ron2K wrote:At its core, the browser is merely a client for HTTP traffic

Do you ever get the impression that these types of surveys, or any survey really, should not be conducted in the United States?

...and yet Americans continue to wonder why we are not impressed by them!!! hmmmmmmmmmmmm

ghett0_ghuru wrote:...and yet Americans continue to wonder why we are not impressed by them!!!

open any local newspaper...

read some of the articles....

i've written off corporate media to a large extent ..... taking everything with a pinch of skepticism.

The Register wrote:Web app testing-as-a-service company Sauce Labs has released its latest browser crash data, and remarkably enough, the least stable web browser today probably isn't the one you think it is.

Hot Apple Sauce

this "testing" sounds like a bunch of scripts being spewed at the browser from an external tool... which means this is more likely to be an API/education fail than a browser fail... they have no knowledge of the quality of the code being tested, what was being tested or how many browsers were involved...

all they have is an enormous number of useless data points they're using to plug their product...

(i love that buried in the ad-copy is a line which explicitly states "Selenium is not a testing framework" and then moves on to rave about how great it is for testing.. )

more rubbish data from which monkeys are trying to extrapolate facts/profits...

*still peeved that opera 12 is an ambulatory corpse...

and I'm still peeved that I cannot jump to a given page in Chrome PDF viewer nearly as easily as I can in other web browsers.