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Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 10:52
by THE_STIG
They are new so therefore have not proven themselves to be legendary or indestructible yet

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 11:38
by Hman
GreyWolf wrote:I can count on 0 hands the number of Escorts I see on the roads. Beetles on the other hand...
That's because they are rarer than hen's teeth. And the numbers are dwindling as they are bought up and exported to the UK and Europe. That reminds me, I don't see Beetles or Mercs being bought up by overseas collectors.
GreyWolf wrote:Bro, you need glasses.
I have some. They're working just fine.

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 11:58
by GreyWolf
Hman wrote:I don't see Beetles or Mercs being bought up by overseas collectors.
Actually there is a big problem in this country with Brits buying all our bugs. The locals resent the foreigners because they pay top dollar for our rust free vehicles, and the beetle supply in SA is being raped.
Hman wrote:I have some. They're working just fine.
I beg to differ. :)

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 12:08
by THE_STIG
Hman wrote:That's because they are rarer than hen's teeth. And the numbers are dwindling as they are bought up and exported to the UK and Europe. That reminds me, I don't see Beetles or Mercs being bought up by overseas collectors.
Actually yes they do. Particularly so the beetle and the original kombi, because we have(or had) many rust free examples.

Old Mercs don't rust. And there are many in Europe anyway so they don't need to come here looking for them, but if a collector sees one here at a good price they will buy it

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 12:11
by SykomantiS
By what measurement would you measure a new car as the best car of all time? By the very definition, a car should have been around for a while to even qualify, would it not?

The one thing I'll say is that regarding engines and not cars, BMW's 6 cylinder has been in every wards auto top10 list since its inception, iirc (though that list is USA only and leaves a lot to be desired).


As far as my first car/vehicle goes, I'd also have to say no. 1st car was 'n 150 carb Ballade, I felt and cared for that car a lot less than my current Civic. The Civic would be my all-time best car ever out of cars I've owned. As for bikes, it would be my 2nd bike, not the 1st and not my current bike, that I consider my best bike ever owned.

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 12:20
by Hman
THE_STIG wrote:
Hman wrote:That's because they are rarer than hen's teeth. And the numbers are dwindling as they are bought up and exported to the UK and Europe. That reminds me, I don't see Beetles or Mercs being bought up by overseas collectors.
Actually yes they do. Particularly so the beetle and the original kombi, because we have(or had) many rust free examples.

Old Mercs don't rust. And there are many in Europe anyway so they don't need to come here looking for them, but if a collector sees one here at a good price they will buy it
Well the guys overseas are so desperate for Escorts that they are even buying rusty ones.

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 12:21
by Hman
What I can say for the Mercedes is that if you are so inclined and have the money Mercedes still stocks parts for the old models.

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 12:28
by THE_STIG
SykomantiS wrote:By what measurement would you measure a new car as the best car of all time? By the very definition, a car should have been around for a while to even qualify, would it not?
+1
SykomantiS wrote:The one thing I'll say is that regarding engines and not cars, BMW's 6 cylinder has been in every wards auto top10 list since its inception, iirc (though that list is USA only and leaves a lot to be desired).
Good engine along with mercs old silky smooth straight 6. Personally I think Alfa's 3L V6 was best
SykomantiS wrote:As far as my first car/vehicle goes, I'd also have to say no. 1st car was 'n 150 carb Ballade, I felt and cared for that car a lot less than my current Civic. The Civic would be my all-time best car ever out of cars I've owned. As for bikes, it would be my 2nd bike, not the 1st and not my current bike, that I consider my best bike ever owned.
So its just me then. I love my car more than just about anything else, and I don't feel as at home in any other car. Everything is exactly where I think it should be in there. The steering wheel, the pedals, the buttons......I go as far as saying i will never find something that I like more. Sure the clutch is on its last legs and the gearbox was not Mercedes finest bit of engineering(the downshifts are brutal) but that adds a certain something
Hman wrote:What I can say for the Mercedes is that if you are so inclined and have the money Mercedes still stocks parts for the old models.
Yep that they do. Went there not long ago for a new fan belt. All they said was "certainly how many would you like" not "no we don't have such a thing in the country". Then I asked about other bits and they had every single piece in stock. Headlights, sensors, bits of suspension.....everything

Prices were not over the top either

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 13:04
by Hman
Yeah, I have a buddy who works in the local Merc dealers' parts department.

He ordered a windscreen for a 1956 Mercedes, SA didn't have stock but they shipped it in from Germany. Was expensive though, R7500

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 13:21
by THE_STIG
Well 1956 is pretty old. Few of those around. But they still were able to get it which is pretty amazing

Some other manufactures have to order like that even for common parts on their new vehicles.

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 13:23
by GreyWolf
THE_STIG wrote:Well 1956 is pretty old. Few of those around. But they still were able to get it which is pretty amazing

Some other manufactures have to order like that even for common parts on their new vehicles.
*cough*french*cough*

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 13:24
by THE_STIG
:lol: Nissan too. Know somebody who had the clutch go on a Lavina and it took 3 weeks for them to get the part

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 14:13
by Hman
We have a 2007 Navara here for repairs. The bonnet is on back order.

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 11:13
by DarkRanger
hamin_aus wrote:Mercedes is and always will be an old mans car. Bleh!
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/13/merc ... t-hatches/
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!! RIGHT NOW!! :lol:

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 11:32
by GreyWolf
DarkRanger wrote:
hamin_aus wrote:Mercedes is and always will be an old mans car. Bleh!
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/13/merc ... t-hatches/
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!! RIGHT NOW!! :lol:
Don't forget THIS!

Re: The best car of all time is.....

Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 12:13
by DarkRanger
I'm pant jizzing...