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Stuart wrote:

GreyWolf wrote:Bleh. I maximise all my screens anyway and use Alt-Tab. No biggie.

+1

If you can get past the fact that alt+tab only works within the desktop and not from anywhere else, not even the start screen (or at least didn't the last time I played with it)

Although I can run two windows side by side in Windows 8 with no problem. Am I missing something here?

Waiting for my bro to bring me his Win 7 disc with SP1 on. Going back to Win 7. Does anyone have the download link for Windows 7 64-bit Home premium with SP1 and other updates integrated? Because I see a 7.4gb file and windows 8 was just 2gb.

StarBound wrote:Waiting for my bro to bring me his Win 7 disc with SP1 on. Going back to Win 7.

More info plox.

GreyWolf wrote:

StarBound wrote:Waiting for my bro to bring me his Win 7 disc with SP1 on. Going back to Win 7.

More info plox.

You know the saying it's the small things that makes up life right? Well that is the case here.
1 - GFWL does not work. This is a major issue. No more Batman Arkham City or AoE Online. No GFWL games will work.
2 - random window pop ins when using firefox. More specificly the download window keeps popping forward when I am busy typing on some sites.
3 - getting to those manual updates that I do myself takes longer to find now.

It's small things. The slow downs in some games aren't as bothersome. But I am going to head back to familiar grounds.

So, MS didn't make Win8 compatible with GFWL? Really? Wow... just..wow

I've tried the steam forums and such. Some people get it to work. I cannot. So instead of bashing my head I'll just reinstall windows 7. Should take about an hour.

lol

GreyWolf wrote:More info plox.

it's an obstructive OS that makes multi-tasking a ludicrously unnecessary chore whilst launching apps or searching for something results in bouncing in and out of the home screen in a manner likely to cause cold blooded murder...

clearly it's the ideal OS for the mentally unbalanced...

the more i use it the less the underlying improvements matter to me... the UI is criminally backward...

rustypup wrote:it's an obstructive OS that makes multi-tasking a ludicrously unnecessary chore

whilst launching apps or searching for something results in bouncing in and out of the home screen in a manner likely to cause cold blooded murder...

is it really that bad?

rustypup wrote:... bouncing in and out of the home screen in a manner likely to cause cold blooded murder...

...the UI is criminally backward...

Indeed. Red background then maniacly hit the windows key will cause a ceasure.

Actually if it wasn't for these annoyances I would not go back. But I game 70% of the time so it cuts off my gaming, 25% on browsing so I don't need the windows popping over each other.

GreyWolf wrote:is it really that bad?

on average i will be running at least 2 monitoring apps, 2 or 3 IDEs, 2 office apps, a browser, a couple of VMs and a console or 2.

in windows 8 land i'm a freak...

in the real world, this is perfectly normal use of the hardware - that's why i have it.

yes. it is that bad.

have you actually worked in 8?

@starbound what red background? why hit the windows key?

@ rusty, not at all. Only on the tablet display,

What you are saying is very disconcerting, as I too have multiple apps/windows open a lot of the time.

then you're going to love the search functionality as well...

• step 1: press the WinKey to open the home page

seriously... you have to surrender your entire desktop to search for something...

everyone applauding this silliness on a desktop machine should be taken out back and subjected to a few hours worth of the nanny laughing at barney the dinosaur re-runs...

rustypup wrote: seriously... you have to surrender your entire desktop to search for something...

that is retarded

rustypup wrote:everyone applauding this silliness on a desktop machine should be taken out back

I noticed that little caveat. I know you are not a fan of the tablet format, but does this mean you give your blessing to Win8 on a fondleslab?

i don't care what happens on tablets primarily because it doesn't affect me... they're unproductive toys*, ("media consumption platforms"), or comically over-sized communication devices... fine for browsing a bit and playing some games - complete pants at everything else..

*personal opinion riders apply...

Downloading SP1 for Windows 7 now then I should be complete with my windows 7 installation. Only took me an hour to get everything back into place this time around. Getting good at this

But ETA for SP1 is 40minutes. So this will be added to my backup folder for future reference.

Here is one glaring oversight from Microsoft that was picked up long before the Release Candidate version and to date they have still not fixed it and that is ... All Metro apps have no idea what to do when they come into contact with a authenticating proxy. MS Store does not work, weather app does not work, People and Skydrive. They all cannot connect to their respective services because when they hit the proxy they fail instead of asking for proxy authentication it just tells you that you dont have a Internet connection. I do realize that for people like rusty this is something that does not belong in the business world but some of them could be a nice addition.

I am staying because I just could not be damned to do the whole downgrade and reinstall process. So Windows 8 at home stays...

Borderlands 2 shows a massive performance boost in Windows 7 over Windows 8.

hamin_aus wrote:If you can get past the fact that alt+tab only works within the desktop and not from anywhere else, not even the start screen (or at least didn't the last time I played with it)

ALT+TAB does work anywhere within Windows 8, I use it when I'm too lazy to reach for the mouse.

GreyWolf wrote:So, MS didn't make Win8 compatible with GFWL? Really? Wow... just..wow

GFWL does work, I have it installed and only had issues during the switch-over a week before the official release because MS was re-starting the service and adding it to more countries around the world. It works without having to download and install the separateXbox Market desktop client (which is the official work-around if you still can't get the service to work for some reason).

Anakha56 wrote:Here is one glaring oversight from Microsoft that was picked up long before the Release Candidate version and to date they have still not fixed it and that is ... All Metro apps have no idea what to do when they come into contact with a authenticating proxy.

Reason #95746 why no business in their right mind would ever use this OS.
Goodbye 60%+ of revenue
Hello Windows 9

I tried so many different things and all ended up not working. If I was gonna play GFWL games it was back to windows 7 for me. And it just works

Well this is my final warning for anyone considering Windows 8 if you play games. Want your stuff to run at half speed or so? Go for it!

StarBound wrote:Well this is my final warning for anyone considering Windows 8 if you play games. Want your stuff to run at half speed or so? Go for it!

Any objective proof? And which games?

Borderlands 2, Far Cry 3, any GFWL game.

Borderlands 2 with physx enabled any time it starts using it the game slows down tremendously on windows 8.
Far Cry 3 the game just runs noticeably slower.
Non of my GFWL games wanted to work eg batman could not save, Age of Empire Online didn't even want to run.