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New Sony PSN ToS: Class Action Waiver Included

rwven writes
"Yesterday Sony sent an email to PlayStation Network members regarding a change in the Terms of Service for PSN. When agreeing to this new terms of service, you must waive your rights to a class action suit against Sony. I, for one, will not be agreeing to any such thing. You can view section 15 of the new ToS here (PDF)."

Wow...

Well you can't really sue them if the service goes down. However should they loose your details that's something above their ToS.

*edit*

After reading it something worse came to front. Nothing you buy has been bought. Everything is rented so to speak. So what now? XBL?

Why is renting as opposed to owning a problem? Have you ever rented a console game?

StarPhoenix wrote:Why is renting as opposed to owning a problem? Have you ever rented a console game?

Yes! I use to rent mega drive games back in the day. R15 for a day of MK or Tiny toons and after 3 days rent it was finished. Sonic on the other hard had a good few rents behind its name.

Not sure why you have such difficulty with the idea of renting a game rather than buying a license to play said game.

StarPhoenix wrote:Not sure why you have such difficulty with the idea of renting a game rather than buying a license to play said game.

A - It is not limited to only games. So that shiny PS3 / PSP / Whatever Sony product you have is rented from them.
B - Renting means you can't do with it as you please.
C - Paying R600 (or what ever games go for) to rent it?!?!?!

When you buy a game, you don't really own it anyway. The only thing you own is the medium on which it is delivered. The game itself remains the property of the maker/publisher. So it is rented, kind of.

capanno wrote:When you buy a game, you don't really own it anyway. The only thing you own is the medium on which it is delivered. The game itself remains the property of the maker/publisher. So it is rented, kind of.

That strengthens the wrong side of the argument because you can find them freely on the internet. So then your not renting it from a rental shop and your not paying for the medium its on. The pub/dev doesn't get anything because your not able to buy it.

*sigh*

SB... you don't own software... if you did the developers should have handed over the source code and the rights to modify it to you. As they don't you don't own the software. You the user can never ever...ever...ever own software. You own a license to use the software. Yes you pay that ridiculous sum of R600 - R900 for a PS game but that amount you are paying is partly for the media it is hipped on and the rest is for the license.

Thanks RRF. I think that is the point I was trying to make when I said that I don't understand what the fuss is about.

I do agree that R600+ is a ridiculous sum, and that is why I am not an early adopter.