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I've gone from LCD to LED screen with my pc and the results were amazing. Went from a 32" lcd to 40" led with less than smile to be honest. I was expecting a much better experience than what I got but I eventually got to my worth as I figured out what settings to use.

Anyway Uncharted 3 beta is in the mix and soon it will be time to switch to "3D". The current options are expensive, unknown risks and possibly a waste of money that could be used otherwise.

I am currently looking at the following 3 3DTVs and all are samsung.
UA40D6000
UA46D7000
PS51D550

The D6000 is the bottom of the range but looks like it has all the features I currently have except ofcoarse 3D.
The D7000 is slightly bigger with a different frame and over the D6000 it has a 600hz subfield (guessing it means it refreshes 600fps but input is still 50/60/100/120hz)
Then finally the D550 is a plasma screen and not an LED. However it is priced at R12k atm, the 46" at R20k and the 40" is R10. Screen size is a huge step up but so is power consumption (yes I take it into account). Also a 600hz subfield.

So does anyone have any of these 3 TVs? And how is your gaming experience on them?

/offt

Now we can't flame you with a "it's PCFormat not ConsoleFormat".

/ont

I'd go for the one with the most longevity.
I saw a guy at HiFi corp, walking around with his XboX, plugging it into various TV's to test the look and feel.
Try the same?

LG has a new 3DTV on the market that uses passive glasses, has better viewing angles etc, etc. You get 7 pairs of glasses in the box with the set, while the Samsung models requires you to buy each battery powered pair at R600+. Not sure what they go for though.

http://www.lg.com/za/tv-audio-video/tel ... /index.jsp

Well I am trying to find the screen that works for me

I've given up on the idea of plasma and gone back to LED. The active glasses makes buying one of the new screens much more expensive especially when they don't come with needed glasses. I still don't know what the difference is between active and passive 3D.

StarBound wrote:I still don't know what the difference is between active and passive 3D.

I still don't know why people don't just Google their questions.

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+bet ... passive+3d

Results:
http://www.3dtvtechnology.org.uk/passive-versus-active
http://www.cnet.com.au/ask-us-whats-the ... 303018.htm

Try typing in tv name and model + review and you will see a ton of sites selling the stuff but not one review on it.

Ooh, rather forget about the LG's looks like:

"The most obvious difference between the two TVs to us was, as expected, their apparent resolutions. Watching the 3D Blu-ray "IMAX: Under the Sea," the Vizio's picture looked softer, with less detail, a difference particularly visible in areas like the coral reefs and sandy sea bottoms. Compared with the Panasonic, the Vizio seemed almost standard-def, especially from our relatively close seating distance (8 feet, which is the minimum recommended by Panasonic for 3D viewing on their 65-incher). Even from a farther seating distance of 12 feet, the softness difference was apparent.

We expected this difference because, as Vizio, LG, and other purveyors of 2011 passive 3D TVs admit, the system they use halves the effective 1080p resolution, delivering only 540 lines to each eye. We just didn't expect it to be so obvious. As Matt said, it makes you appreciate how good "1080p to each eye" looks."

Source

I watched a bit of Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole at a shop on an active 3D Samsung 50" and it looked fantastic. The glasses are expensive, but they aren't very bulky.

Yeah I think I got that one to but I've seen the new active glasses. They arent heavy infact I prefer them to the standard passive glasses as they arent hard plastic. But there was an article saying ppl prefer the passive over active because of the glass price. 40" samsung + 7 active glasses = R20k. LG 40" + 7 passive glasses = R12k. It does make a world of difference on your wallet and you need to buy each pair of glasses separately for the samsung. Also take note that the old 3D glasses for samsung is not compatible with the new TV. So you need to replace everything when things go wrong. With LG you just go buy some from the cinema for R10.

Looked at various sites and came to the following conclusion:
Best 3DTV atm = Panasonic plasma

I don't know what models but the general feel is lcd/led refreshes too slow on the screen itself to do decent 3D.

But you'll lose resolution, won't you? Are they 1080p as well?

You do get full hd 3d plasma tvs these days. They are cheaper than your LED tvs but it comes back to plasma being better for movies and LED better for games. Plasma is faster on the refresh of its pixels and thats why it gives a better 3D experience even with active shutter glasses.

My research for a friend showed the same (higher refresh rate, more vivid colour resolution, better contrast), but a demonstration by a very low quality HD plasma (Telefunken) left very bad impressions. I guess a better quality one would produce the results it is supposed to. (man the Telefunken sucked)

Well here is what I have found out so far thru I think the AVS forums.

Panasonic = best 3D tv but it is there plasma TV. I havent seen Panasonic in SA for a long long time.
Samsung and LG 3D tvs are bad in general. LED 3D tvs are especially bad.

The technology isn't entirely there yet.

Ok other stuff I have found out but seems I havent posted it here:
Active 3D vs Passive 3D (pro = + ; con = - )
Active:
- Needs manufacturer specific glasses.
- Only works with menufacturers tv
- Expensive glasses that needs power
- Sometimes noticeable flicker
+ full 3d hd

Passive:
- downscaled resolution (1920x1080 to 1920x540 or 960x1080)
- black strips
+ cheap glasses with no mechanical implementation
+ R55 and movie from any cinema
+ swop lenses for full screen split screen gaming
+ polarized glasses works on any passive source

As you can see passive has much more going for it but it is a lower quality. Passive is just for people that want 3D and have a large amount of people wanting to watch it. Active the glasses kills your budget before you even get the screen. Either way your going to notice crosstalk still. There is only ways to minimize it but after that it still suffers from being a developing technology.

Lets wait and see what happens when large format AMOLED screens hit the market and holographic disc technology becomes mainstream. Then you can have a screen with a huge resolution and a delivery medium with more than enough storage to store such huge amounts of data.

The problem with that is it is atleast 10 years away from being commercial. Bluray is already 50gb of data and I think it might not even be fully utilized yet.

So atm your getting better than cinema quality 3D if your going for current generation 3D but all the faults are still noticeable. You can only minimize the impact but never fully remove it. So basicly you have 2 things to keep into consideration:

Movie = plasma ; game = LED
cheap = passive ; better looking = active