I think a baseball bat would help

[JollyJamma]

Come to think about it I have an AMD Athlon XP 3200+, via chipset and 1.5gigs of RAM that still works fine but I only put XP Pro on it and the drivers were iffy at times.

Also had a 680i chipset that sucked. Stock Nforce drivers caused it to BSOD. Now I'm using a P965 mobo and core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.8ghz and she still plays games and does what I need it to do really.

Definitely there are certain chipsets (Via) /graphics cards (6800XT)/ Sound cards/ CPUs (Celerons) to stay away from.

[wizardofid]

Sigh,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/10/11 ... kill_your/

[THE_STIG]

Come to think about it I have an AMD Athlon XP 3200+, via chipset and 1.5gigs of RAM that still works fine but I only put XP Pro on it and the drivers were iffy at times.

Also had a 680i chipset that sucked. Stock Nforce drivers caused it to BSOD. Now I'm using a P965 mobo and core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.8ghz and she still plays games and does what I need it to do really.

Definitely there are certain chipsets (Via) /graphics cards (6800XT)/ Sound cards/ CPUs (Celerons) to stay away from.

I had a 6800XT.....it was utter rubbish , slower than a stock 6600 in fact , VIA is not that bad they just made some bad choices especially when it came to their Intel chipsets *cough P4m800 cough*

[jee]

I like those options but not for AMD... for some at work!

[THE_STIG]

I like those options but not for AMD... for some at work!

Well business PC's is where most of the rubbish ends up, because nobody cares what is in them.

[wizardofid]

Come to think about it I have an AMD Athlon XP 3200+, via chipset and 1.5gigs of RAM that still works fine but I only put XP Pro on it and the drivers were iffy at times.

Also had a 680i chipset that sucked. Stock Nforce drivers caused it to BSOD. Now I'm using a P965 mobo and core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.8ghz and she still plays games and does what I need it to do really.

Definitely there are certain chipsets (Via) /graphics cards (6800XT)/ Sound cards/ CPUs (Celerons) to stay away from.

I had a 6800XT.....it was utter rubbish , slower than a stock 6600 in fact , VIA is not that bad they just made some bad choices especially when it came to their Intel chipsets *cough P4m800 cough*

Thank goodness I have a Biostar P4M900-m4 ver 6.1 then I still have a XFX 6800XT 256mb PCI-e card it was much much faster than a stock 6600 even a 8600GT

I like those options but not for AMD... for some at work!

...and the people...??

I actually gone and formatted the "beast" again with XP SP1 so far so good.....now I just have to switch the PC back on....

[THE_STIG]

Thank goodness I have a Biostar P4M900-m4 ver 6.1 then I still have a XFX 6800XT 256mb PCI-e card it was much much faster than a stock 6600 even a 8600GT.

Really are you sure.... that is not what I experienced, and not what I read

The p4m900 was miles better as it had PCI-express, what were VIA thinking when in 2006 they decided to put AGP 8x in a chipset that had support for DDR2 and socket 775 .

[wizardofid]

Thank goodness I have a Biostar P4M900-m4 ver 6.1 then I still have a XFX 6800XT 256mb PCI-e card it was much much faster than a stock 6600 even a 8600GT.

Really are you sure.... that is not what I experienced, and not what I read

The p4m900 was miles better as it had PCI-express, what were VIA thinking when in 2006 they decided to put AGP 8x in a chipset that had support for DDR2 and socket 775 .

Sigh 128bit vs a 256bit bus....go to google, go direct to google do not pass google.....

[THE_STIG]

Oh so you had the 128 bit 6800XT, I had the stupid 64bit model .

Google, saviour of humankind

[wizardofid]

Oh so you had the 128 bit 6800XT, I had the stupid 64bit model .

Google, saviour of humankind

Sigh, apparently not to you, I have the XFX 6800XT DDR3 256mb 256bit....

http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_6800.html

[KatrynKat]

wrong thread...

[THE_STIG]

@wiz. Oh you had the really nice one, there were a number of different variations of the 6800XT and unfortunately i had a the biostar vp6802xt26 which had the normal 128bit bus halved to 64bit so that it was cheaper, why

Here it is anyway: as you can see I had to replace the fan

sigh... i have the FX 9000GTI LOL 123G 456TB...

there was no such thing, the FX5950 was the best the FX series had to offer. I wish there was a gfx card with that much memory and such a wide buss

[wizardofid]

@wiz. Oh you had have the really nice one, there were a number of different variations of the 6800XT and unfortunately i had a the biostar vp6802xt26 which had the normal 128bit bus halved to 64bit so that it was cheaper, why

Here it is anyway: as you can see I had to replace the fan

sigh... i have the FX 9000GTI LOL 123G 456TB...

there was no such thing, the FX5950 was the best the FX series had to offer. I wish there was a gfx card with that much memory and such a wide buss

Fixed that for you...

[THE_STIG]

What I meant was that it is not your primary gfx card anymore, or is it......I still have my 6800 but it is sitting in my old pc, my current pc has a GTS450

[wizardofid]

What I meant was that it is not your primary gfx card anymore, or is it......I still have my 6800 but it is sitting in my old pc, my current pc has a GTS450

No hence the problem 4650 HD and need for a baseball bat

[THE_STIG]

I have done battle with ATI's rubbish drivers in the past. All I can say is that when an updated driver comes out, install it and then wait for the next update as the problems will eventually be sorted out a few updates later.


You should have bought a GTS450, I love it and it is way better then the R1300 price tag suggests

[wizardofid]

I have done battle with ATI's rubbish drivers in the past. All I can say is that when an updated driver comes out, install it and then wait for the next update as the problems will eventually be sorted out a few updates later.

Well lets see, currently on 8.6 dated 2009 (drivers shipped with the card)....the newest one hot fix 11.5...the driver support is actually so bad it is not controlling fan speed correctly with temp increases....so go figure

[THE_STIG]

OMW......AMD what have you done . I guess you will just have to try every driver possible until it works

[wizardofid]

OMW......AMD what have you done . I guess you will just have to try every driver possible until it works

actually I have noticed, even with a proper driver cleaner in between testing new drivers, just messes things up a considerable amount more.... So no, I am going to keep every thing with stock drivers...and see what happens...

[THE_STIG]

I hope it works......but if I was in that situation I would have sold the card and gone and got something else, btw who made the card?

[wizardofid]

I hope it works......but if I was in that situation I would have sold the card and gone and got something else, btw who made the card?

sapphire.? and then give some one else the problem...

[THE_STIG]

hey, at least it wont be your problem anymore

nothing wrong with sapphire, so it definitely is AMD's fault then

[Vector1]

Here is my solution.

1: Go to Gumtree
2: Search for one of these okes who sell pirate software.
3: Ask them for a copy of a Winxp SP3 jobbieeeez with all that amazing add-ons and extra drivers. (Love to know how they manage to do that?)
4: Install
5: If it works then your problam is solved.
6: If it does not work - You might be screwed
7: Take it to one of those fundeeeeez who opperate from home and ask them to sort it out. (Make sure to pick one with either a very thick pair of glasses, if no glasses then be sure and pick one who has VERY long hair. OH and they must carry a funny smell on them, some might wear a black t-shirt with a faded logo of some heavy metal band)
8: If no 7 works, make sure and ask them for the drivers. (They might swear and shout at you - If that happens make sure you have your PC in hand and run. God alone knows what that kind can get up to).
9: If the problems still persists - You are screwed.
10: Last, but not least. Sell it, make it somebody elses problem and move on.
Just my 2c

[wizardofid]

Here is my solution.

1: Go to Gumtree
I think not
2: Search for one of these okes who sell pirate software.
No again
3: Ask them for a copy of a Winxp SP3 jobbieeeez with all that amazing add-ons and extra drivers. (Love to know how they manage to do that?)
It is called slip streaming , chop
4: Install
Perhaps I didn't make it clear I am avoiding SP3
5: If it works then your problam is solved.
It is problem
6: If it does not work - You might be screwed
Well, nothing like a good screw
7: Take it to one of those fundeeeeez who opperate from home and ask them to sort it out. (Make sure to pick one with either a very thick pair of glasses, if no glasses then be sure and pick one who has VERY long hair. OH and they must carry a funny smell on them, some might wear a black t-shirt with a faded logo of some heavy metal band)
Surely you mean a person like me, but having no glasses and short hair does it mean a new geek to stereo type
8: If no 7 works, make sure and ask them for the drivers. (They might swear and shout at you - If that happens make sure you have your PC in hand and run. God alone knows what that kind can get up to).No I will do the swearing my self, I don't want to pay some one else to swear about a problem I know even they will not understand without pulling out a scientific calculator, to calculate the odds of solving the problem
9: If the problems still persists - You are screwed.
Nothing like getting screwed again...wear protection, some thing like windows XP should help
10: Last, but not least. Sell it, make it somebody elses problem and move on.
That would still make it my problem as I have to explain why this or that isn't working
Just my 2c
Here is a refund and spare change, go buy your self some sarcasm and wit

[THE_STIG]

Good answers Wiz

Here is my solution.


3: Ask them for a copy of a Winxp SP3 jobbieeeez with all that amazing add-ons and extra drivers. (Love to know how they manage to do that?)

7: Take it to one of those fundeeeeez who opperate from home and ask them to sort it out. (Make sure to pick one with either a very thick pair of glasses, if no glasses then be sure and pick one who has VERY long hair. OH and they must carry a funny smell on them, some might wear a black t-shirt with a faded logo of some heavy metal band)

There is a program called Nlite, heard of it

And I am that sort......just minus the long hair and glasses