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3D MARK 2001

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 09:35
by HUQMIQNKO
MY SCORE IS 8060 IN 3D MARK 2001 AND 1400 IN 2003.IS THERE ANYTHING POSSIBLY WRONG WITH MY SYSTEM OR IS IT NORMAL?


AMD ATHLON 64 3400+
SIS 755-A MOTHERBOARD
768MB DDR 266
GE FORCE FX 128 MB
WIN XP HOME

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 14:37
by Nuke
A GFX(what number)?

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 19:32
by ysaban
Hi

I think there is def something wrong.

Here is my spec:
AMD64 3000+
MSI K8TNeo
1.5 Gig Apacer CL2.5

WOLF182 and myself ran a test just yesterday with the following cards on the above Machine:
- MSI FX 5900 Ultra
- HIS ATI 9800Pro

Here is the scores:
3DMark2001
- MSI -> 16373
- HIS -> 19486

3DMark2003
- MSI -> 5865
- HIS -> 6112

I hope this will give you some idea on performance.

One question.What FX Card do you have.

Cheers

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 20:06
by Ri0t
this is from another thread where the person pasted their specs
AMD ATHLON 64 3400+
SIS 755-A MOTHERBOARD
768MB DDR 266
128 GEFORCE FX 5200
SOUND BLASTER LIVE 5.1
1394 FIREWIRE
17" MONITOR NEC
WIN XP HOME
120GB 7200 HDD MAXTOR
10GB 5600 MAXTOR
DVD ROM 16X JLMS
SONY DVD-R+R/-RW+RW//CD-R/RW
KEYBOARD AND WIRELESS OPTICAL MOUSE
unluckily u got a **** gfx card in comparison with the rest of ur system ur 3d marks are on par with what they should be :/

Re: 3D MARK 2001

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 20:22
by Thrall
HUQMIQNKO wrote:IS THERE ANYTHING POSSIBLY WRONG WITH MY SYSTEM OR IS IT NORMAL?
Yes - your caps-lock key is stuck and slowing your system down :-)

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 21:10
by amdretard
By the soundsof your machine you are fairly wealthy why not go out and buy a radeon 9800 or geforce 5950 and that with likely quaddruple your score my friend

and turn capslocks off please reminds me of my friend sms's from 5110

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 22:33
by HUQMIQNKO
so you think a new videocard will solve it?but the latest radeon and geforce are around the $300-400 mark.how about the geforce fx 5800 256mb could that be a good solution?its cheaper by a 150 bucks

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 23:52
by Dom
The GeForce FX 5800 is rather old now... besides it was long ago replaced with the 5900 series. The 5900's not only run better, but they're much cooler running, and heat was a problem the 5800 suffered from. The current equivalent to an FX 5800 with 256 megs DDR RAM would have to be a 5950 Ultra. You could also get 5900 Ultra's, that had 256 megs RAM, but they're not the most current offering (although the difference in performance between a 5900 Ultra and a 5950 is negligible.) So, if you can get a 5900 Ultra, it's going to give you pretty much the same performance as a 5950.

The reason that FX 5800 you found is probably going for such a bargain price, is because it's old stock.

I'm not saying the FX 5800's didn't perform... they did actually put out quite good performance. However, how hot that GPU got was always a problem.

Posted: 13 Apr 2004, 07:48
by goku
Can someone pls tell me what the standard settings are when you bench mark with 3d mark cause some okes I know use default settings in 3d mark (1024 X 768 32bit colour) and in the control panel they set it to performance.

Posted: 13 Apr 2004, 08:08
by Garret
gigabyte nForce 3 150
amd 64 3200
1g DDR 400 ram
radeon 9600 pro 256 MB
SATA HDD
XP sp1

I'm only getting aroung 5950 in 3dMark 2001
and 2950 in 3dMark 2003

is this normal?

I understand that the radeon isn't exactly the best at the moment and will rectified soon - but this still seems pretty low.

I tried to install all my apps under xp 64 bit - but there is very limited support at the moment for 64 bit drivers. will try again in 6 months or so.

Posted: 15 Apr 2004, 21:49
by orracle
I understand that the radeon isn't exactly the best at the moment and will rectified soon
What you smoking? ATI are good cards.

Posted: 16 Apr 2004, 03:27
by n00b
is this normal?
nope - since i know for a fact that your system specs with a radeon 9800pro instead of a 9600pro will give you around 18000 points out of the box and with a bit of system tweaking will give you 20000 with no overclocks and with some overclocking is capable of 23000 points even without phase change or watercooling - if you add in a 9800XT instead you will be getting closer to 21000 at stock speeds

the 9600pro is not as good as a 9800pro but is by no stretch of the imagination a bad card thus you dont have your system set up correctly and IMHO you need to be at around double what you getting now even for a system out the box

i do know that the A64 does not like to work properly with 512mb dimms which means that if your 1 gig ddr is in the form of 2 x 512mb dimms that could be part of your problems - the other being that the card is introducing latencies of its own by being a bottleneck in a otherwise powerful pc and a better card will definitely help out

in response to this
Can someone pls tell me what the standard settings are when you bench mark with 3d mark cause some okes I know use default settings in 3d mark (1024 X 768 32bit colour) and in the control panel they set it to performance
yes the default settings for 3d mark are 1024 x 768 at 32 bit color precision but it is allowable to change your driver settings to increase performance (if you do benchmarking as a hobby) but if you wish to test your card at the best image quality available then leaving your driver settings at normal will obviously yield lower scores but will look far better

Posted: 08 Jun 2004, 13:33
by Slasher.
Hi all...

Is a score of 4080 in 3dMark01 good for the following system??

Amd Athlon 1.2ghz
256Mb SD Ram
WinFast A170 Gf 4 Mx440
Windows XP Professional
DirectX 9

The system is running Stock standard {NOT overclocked...} ... Is this a OK score, or should it be higher??

Hopefullly this weekend Ill post a higher score... What kind of score can I expect with a GeForce FX5900XT in the system?? {Leadtek , 128Mb version}

Posted: 08 Jun 2004, 13:37
by OnlyOneKenobi
Slasher. wrote:Hi all...

Is a score of 4080 in 3dMark01 good for the following system??

Amd Athlon 1.2ghz
256Mb SD Ram
WinFast A170 Gf 4 Mx440
Windows XP Professional
DirectX 9

The system is running Stock standard {NOT overclocked...} ... Is this a OK score, or should it be higher??
It's good, higher than I thought it would be.
Hopefullly this weekend Ill post a higher score... What kind of score can I expect with a GeForce FX5900XT in the system?? {Leadtek , 128Mb version}
It's difficult to say with your slow CPU - maybe 2000 points more, if even that much. The CPU will bottleneck the FX5900Xt.

Posted: 08 Jun 2004, 13:50
by Slasher
Thanks...

I know it will bottleneck the system... but funds are REALLLLY low , so that has to wait...

My account is now drawn empty... time to wait till my dad gets some money :twisted:

Seriously though, I hope to upgrade before the year is up... Maybe over 2 months...

first things first : I know Im getting a HDD sooner or later {Either a 120gb , or 2 80ggs , which seem to be smarter... not jsut for the size gain...}


Thanks for the reply OnlyOne...

** Attack of consciounce **

I actually OC'd the gfx card with everything that came with it by a littttle percentage, but nothing to write home about... Temperature on card didnt rise by more than 4 degrees... got 4023 then... installed new forceware drivers {Was still on older ones...} and got the added 60...

Posted: 08 Jun 2004, 13:54
by OnlyOneKenobi
It sounds like my situation a year ago when I was upgrading my geforce 2MX to a Geforce 4ti, I also had a 1.2ghz processor with 256mb ram - upgrading it gained me about 2000-3000 3dmarks and then I got another 3000-4000 3dmarks when I upgraded the CPU.

Posted: 08 Jun 2004, 13:57
by Slasher
8O THAT bad eh??

* SIGH *

Which shop should I rob to get enough for a new CPU / mobo / Ram ??

Looking at at least a 2.8ghz ...

/me Hums a sad sad tune...

Maybe I should do research on a money tree... then I can grow me some money...

Wait... thats STILL too much hard work...

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 07:48
by Slasher.
Im up to 6801 now...

Leadtek A350 (5900XT) ... Quite a improvement.... My CPU is killing me though... Darnit....

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 09:58
by OnlyOneKenobi
That sounds about right...

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 10:47
by RuadRauFlessa
Garret wrote:gigabyte nForce 3 150
amd 64 3200
1g DDR 400 ram
radeon 9600 pro 256 MB
SATA HDD
XP sp1

I'm only getting aroung 5950 in 3dMark 2001
I get more than that with a MX440

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 10:51
by OnlyOneKenobi
RuadRauFlessa wrote:
Garret wrote:gigabyte nForce 3 150
amd 64 3200
1g DDR 400 ram
radeon 9600 pro 256 MB
SATA HDD
XP sp1

I'm only getting aroung 5950 in 3dMark 2001
I get more than that with a MX440
Maybe he's confusing 3dmark 2001 with 3dmark 2003, if so then the score seems right for 03, but way too low for 01.

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 10:51
by Y0da
I get 4332 3D Marks with 2001. I have a P4 2.0ghz, Epox Hills Breed Mobo, 512MB Kingston DDR 333, 40 GB HDD (Don't know the speed) and of course my crummy ol FX5200 with 128mb memory.

Is it ok for what I have or should I tweak a bit?

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 10:55
by RuadRauFlessa
I get 6100 on 3DMark 2001 with a MX440 128MB. I have a 2.4GHz CPU and 1.25GB Kingston DDR333, Intel Mobo, 40GB HDD (Don't know the speed)

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 10:55
by OnlyOneKenobi
Y0da wrote:I get 4332 3D Marks with 2001. I have a P4 2.0ghz, Epox Hills Breed Mobo, 512MB Kingston DDR 333, 40 GB HDD (Don't know the speed) and of course my crummy ol FX5200 with 128mb memory.

Is it ok for what I have or should I tweak a bit?
I would think that you should get at least 5000 3d marks or so but I could be wrong - it amazes me how about the FX5200 really is! I don't think you'd gain much by tweaking, maybe 100-300 points but nothing major.

Posted: 11 Jun 2004, 10:59
by Y0da
Is the MX440 better than the FX5200? I truly think the fx5200 was a rip off.