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Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 13:25
by GreyWolf
Stuart wrote: I think the rate on the boards is for etag users who pay within seven days.
I thought this too, but no. The board for tagged users was 100m down the road and stated R1.20 (or something like that).

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 13:32
by Stuart
Anakha56 wrote:And who wants to help me plan my way around JHB to avoid the toll mess? :P
Honestly, if this morning's reports were anything to go by, you'd be less frustrated just getting a day pass and sticking to the highways. I know several people who took back roads this morning and found them significantly more congested than normal.

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 13:33
by Stuart
GreyWolf wrote:
Stuart wrote: I think the rate on the boards is for etag users who pay within seven days.
I thought this too, but no. The board for tagged users was 100m down the road and stated R1.20 (or something like that).
You have two boards? I've not noticed dual boards at any of the gantries around here. :?

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 13:33
by SykomantiS
There are discounted rates for non-registered users who pay within 30 days- some 60% and 60 days- 30%

I'm guessing you saw a discounted rate at the roadside.

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 13:42
by KatrynKat
there is also discounted prices if you travel under the gantry during certain times of the day and on a weekend...
and you get charged at a lower price if you register than if you don't register...

Government Gazette 19/11/13

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 13:46
by GreyWolf
So that all sounds complicated. But the CPA clearly states that the consumer must pay the indicated price. So If they come with some BS story I will just refer them to the board showing a non-registered user rate of R 3.40. That should buy me even more time.

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 14:03
by GDI_Lord
Stuart wrote:I've not noticed dual boards at any of the gantries around here. :?
Brings a whole new meaning to "Crossfire." ;-)

Also, http://no.etoll.gp/

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 14:55
by GreyWolf
GDI_Lord wrote:
Also, http://no.etoll.gp/
no server?

edit: my bad, was a glitch in the matrix

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:09
by GDI_Lord
doo_much wrote:Seems we're stuck with 'old' tech.
SANRAL website wrote: Do I need to slow down when I get to the toll gantry?
No. The technology on the gantry is able to read the vehicle number plate and/or e-tag at any speed.
Except if they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes?
What if they change the system post-launch? Upgrade the cameras (if necessary) and change the software. Just think about the sums of money that government contractors might charge to change the system!!! :WhyIsThereNoMoneyFallingFromTheSkySmiley:

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:32
by CapNemo
There are two solutions one is called a grinder and the second is mud so now go implement it

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:36
by GreyWolf
CapNemo wrote:There are two solutions one is called a grinder and the second is mud so now go implement it
links? Googling "mud" yields not usable reults, and grinder is not much better. In fact if you google them together you better not be at work...

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:40
by CapNemo
:lol: I can just imagine the combo you will get and it is rather straight forward solutions the one you use on the gantries and the other on the numberplates and windscreen where the licence disk is and no comments on spelling mistakes kay

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:43
by GDI_Lord
Google spray on mud

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:45
by GDI_Lord
I was wondering when someone would take spray paint to the gantry cameras. Either lead-based or depleted uranium... 8)

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:47
by CapNemo
I'd say cut them down and sell for scrap be a capitalist why don't you

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:55
by doo_much
Spray paint?
Hmmm, nice low-tech solution...

'Borrow' a bus. (Not Putco, they break down)
Mount hoses and nozzles on top.
Mount borrowed compressor and paint inside.
Take joyride thru Mzansi, litterally painting the town red...

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 16:00
by GreyWolf
CapNemo wrote::lol: I can just imagine the combo you will get and it is rather straight forward solutions the one you use on the gantries and the other on the numberplates and windscreen where the licence disk is and no comments on spelling mistakes kay
oh lol. Do I feel stupid.

hmm... you could actually spray the mud on your car, covering your plate and disk:" Sorry officer, I just came from the bush. I was on the way to the car wash..." Grinder to the gantries is optional...

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 16:03
by GDI_Lord
GreyWolf wrote: hmm... you could actually spray the mud on your car, covering your plate and disk
Well, yes.

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 16:05
by GreyWolf
yeah.. its a slow day.. gimme a break. :)

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 20:04
by Tribble
I will not register but will pay my account should I ever receive it

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Tolls

Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 10:51
by Anakha56
doo_much wrote: Which is your democratic right. We'll support you as well once they start tolling every darn road in KZN. :thumbup:
*dun dun dun*

http://www.fin24.com/Economy/E-tags-moo ... s-20131204
E-tags mooted for KZN motorists
Dec 04 2013 07:47

Witness Reporter , The Witness

Durban - E-tags, the controversial wireless toll road payment system introduced in Gauteng this week, will be introduced into KwaZulu-Natal by 2014.

The 14 tollgates in KZN, through a phased approach beginning with the Mooi River toll plaza on the N3, will be introducing the e-tag facility.

...
Methinks it is to pay for this...

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ ... t-20131204
R290m spent on Nkandla road - report
2013-12-04 09:25

Johannesburg - About R290m of taxpayers' money was spent on a road connecting President Jacob Zuma's hometown Nkandla to neighbouring town Kranskop, The Star reported on Wednesday.

This was revealed on Tuesday by Transport Minister Dipuo Peters in a Parliamentary reply to a question posed by the Inkatha Freedom Party.

"The provincial department of transport spent about R290m for the construction of the specified (Nkandla to Kranskop) road," Peters was quoted as saying.

This came as concerns over delays in the implementation of the Moloto Rail Corridor were mounting, The Star reported.
*sigh*

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 11:24
by CapNemo
Such an overload on good news that we have in this country :roll:
We really need some form of an IQ test or general knowledge test to determine if someone can vote or not to be honest the whole world needs that

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 12:28
by SykomantiS
Just received this via email :lol:

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 18:55
by Tribble
lol the comments are just as funny

Re: Gauteng (GFIP) Trolls

Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 16:42
by Anakha56
Trying to register for a day pass and the website just hangs... *sigh* I really, really, really dont want to phone these people...