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Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 13:39
by Sojourn
Firstly - Info as copied from http://www.superxv.com/.
All informational content in this post is their property.

How the new Super Rugby format will work

Each country's 5 teams will have their own group, from this point forward called a conference.

The tournament will start with a series of teams playing the other teams in their own conference. From the second round teams will start to move through the rest of the teams in their conference and in the other conferences.

Teams will play each team in their own conference twice - home and away but in the other conferences they will only play four of the five teams in both of the other conferences. Therefore, the Bulls for example could miss playing the Crusaders miss out on playing the Melbourne Rebels but the Crusaders play the Blues and the other New Zealand teams twice in the regular season.

Teams will play eight domestic matches and eight away matches for a total of 16 round-robin games.

A winner from each conference will be determined from the results. Each conference will have one winner and therefore Australia, South Africa and New Zealand will each be gauranteed to have one team participating in the finals. Where these teams finish will determine home advantage for the play offs.

In week 1 of the finals the two conference winners with the highest points will be rewarded with a week off. The conference winner with the lowest points or the third placed team will enter a sudden death play off with the sixth placed team.

Also in week 1 the team placed fourth at the end of the regular season will play the fifth placed team. The winners of the first week of play offs then go through to face the first and second placed team who had just had the week off in the semi-finals.

QF1.) Team 3 vs Team 6
QF2.) Team 4 vs Team 5

The first placed team from the regular season will play the team who won the match between the fourth and fifth placed teams in week 1 of the play offs.

The second placed team from the regular season plays the team that won the match between the third and sixth placed team.

SF1.) Team 1 vs Winner QF 2.
SF2.) Team 2 v Winner QF 1.

The final will be made up by the teams who won the semi-finals.

Final Winner SF1 v SF2

Home advantage will be given to the team that finished highest on the overall table in the regular season.

In an ordinary year (not a world cup year) the tournament will take a break in June (not in 2011) when the All Blacks, Springboks and Wallabies will host tours from international teams - historically from the Northern Hemisphere - these are usually known as the June tours. Once the June tours are complete, the Super 15 resumes and the finals start.

NOTE: Due to 2011 being a Rugby World Cup year the June Internationals have been suspended across the board. From 2012 the June internationals as we now know them will become the June tours. In 2012, England will tour South Africa in 2012, Ireland will tour New Zealand and Wales will tour Australia.

Fixtures to follow.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 13:40
by Sojourn
Click this link to get the fixtures in an outlook file.

Week 1:

* 18 February 2011: Hurricanes vs Highlanders
Wellington – 08h35
* 18 February 2011: Rebels vs Waratahs
Melbourne – 10h40
* 19 February 2011: Blues vs Crusaders
Auckland – 08h35
* 19 February 2011: Brumbies vs Chiefs
Canberra – 10h40
* 19 February 2011: Sharks vs Cheetahs
Shark Tank, Durban – 17h05
* 19 February 2011: Lions vs Bulls
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 19h10
* 19 February 2011: Reds vs Force
Brisbane – 08h40
* Stormers Bye

Week 2:

* 25 February 2011: Highlanders vs Chiefs
Dunedin – 08h35
* 25 February 2011: Rebels vs Brumbies
Melbourne – 10h40
* 25 February 2011: Cheetahs vs Bulls
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 19h10
* 26 February 2011: Hurricanes vs Crusaders
Wellington – 08h35
* 26 February 2011: Feb 26 – Waratahs vs Reds
Sydney – 10h40
* 26 February 2011: Sharks vs Blues
Shark Tank, Durban – 17h05
* 26 February 2011: Stormers vs Lions
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 19h10
* Force Bye

Week 3:

* 4 March 2011: Crusaders vs Waratahs
Christchurch – 08h35
* 4 March 2011: Lions vs Blues
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 19h10
* 5 March 2011: Chiefs vs Rebels
Hamilton – 08h35
* 5 March 2011: Brumbies vs Reds
Canberra – 10h40
* 5 March 2011: Force vs Sharks
Perth – 13h05
* 5 March 2011: Stormers vs Cheetahs
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 17h05
* 5 March 2011: Bulls vs Highlanders
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 19h10
* Hurricanes Bye

Week 4:

* 11 March 2011: Crusaders vs Brumbies
Christchurch – 08h35
* 11 March 2011: Rebels vs Sharks
Melbourne – 10h40
* 11 March 2011: Stormers vs Highlanders
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 19h10
* 12 March 2011: Hurricanes vs Chiefs
Wellington – 08h35
* 12 March 2011: Force vs Blues
Perth – 13h05
* 12 March 2011: Cheetahs vs Lions
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 17h05
* Bulls/Reds/Waratahs Bye

Week 5:

* 18 March 2011: Chiefs vs Sharks
Hamilton – 08h35
* 18 March 2011: Reds vs Rebels
Brisbane – Time: TBA
* 19 March 2011: Highlanders vs Crusaders
Dunedin – 06h30
* 19 March 2011: Blues vs Hurricanes
Auckland – 08h35
* 19 March 2011: Waratahs vs Cheetahs
Sydney – 10h40
* 19 March 2011: Lions vs Force
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 17h05
* 19 March 2011: Bulls vs Stormers
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 19h10
* Brumbies Bye

Week 6:

* 25 March 2011: Crusaders vs Sharks
Christchurch – 08h35
* 25 March 2011: Rebels vs Hurricanes
Melbourne – 10h40
* 26 March 2011: Reds vs Cheetahs
Brisbane – 06h40
* 26 March 2011: Chiefs vs Blues
Hamilton – 08h35
* 26 March 2011: Brumbies vs Waratahs
Canberra – 10h40
* 26 March 2011: Stormers vs Force
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 15h00
* 26 March 2011: Bulls vs Lions
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 17h05
* Highlanders Bye

Week 7:

* 1 April 2011: Highlanders vs Brumbies
Dunedin – 08h35
* 1 April 2011: Waratahs vs Chiefs
Sydney – 10h40
* 2 April 2011: Blues vs Cheetahs
Auckland – 06h30
* 2 April 2011: Hurricanes vs Bulls
Wellington – 08h35
* 2 April 2011: Force vs Rebels
Perth – 13h05
* 2 April 2011: Lions vs Reds
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 15h00
* 2 April 2011: Sharks vs Stormers
Shark Tank, Durban – 17h05
* Crusaders Bye

Week 8:


* 8 April 2011: Highlanders vs Cheetahs
Dunedin – 09h35
* 9 April 2011: Crusaders vs Bulls
Christchurch – 09h35
* 9 April 2011: Brumbies vs Hurricanes
Canberra – 11h40
* 9 April 2011: Force vs Waratahs
Perth – 14h05
* 9 April 2011: Stormers vs Reds
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 17h05
* 9 April 2011: Sharks vs Lions
Shark Tank, Durban – 19h10
* Blues/Chiefs/Rebels Bye

Week 9:

* 15 April 2011: Chiefs vs Crusaders
Hamilton – 09h35
* 15 April 2011: Rebels vs Highlanders
Melbourne – 11h40
* 16 April 2011: Blues vs Waratahs
Auckland – 09h35
* 16 April 2011: Reds vs Bulls
Brisbane – 11h40
* 16 April 2011: Lions vs Stormers
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 17h05
* 16 April 2011: Cheetahs vs Hurricanes
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 19h10
* 17 April 2011: Brumbies vs Force
Canberra – 08h10
* Sharks Bye

Week 10:


* 22 April 2011: Blues vs Rebels
Auckland – 09h35
* 23 April 2011: Crusaders vs Highlanders
Christchurch – 09h35
* 23 April 2011: Reds vs Waratahs
Brisbane – 11h40
* 23 April 2011: Force vs Bulls
Perth – 14h05
* 23 April 2011: Sharks vs Hurricanes
Shark Tank, Durban – 17h05
* 23 April 2011: Lions vs Chiefs
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 19h10
* Brumbies/Cheetahs/Stormers Bye

Week 11:

* 29 April 2011: Highlanders vs Blues
Dunedin – 09h35
* 30 April 2011: Hurricanes vs Reds
Wellington – 09h35
* 30 April 2011: Waratahs vs Rebels
Sydney – 11h40
* 30 April 2011: Force vs Crusaders
Perth – 14h05
* 30 April 2011: Cheetahs vs Brumbies
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 15h00
* 30 April 2011: Bulls vs Chiefs
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 17h05
* 30 April 2011: Stormers vs Sharks
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 19h10
* Lions Bye

Week 12:

* 6 May 2011: Hurricanes vs Blues
Wellington – 09h35
* 6 May 2011: Rebels vs Reds
Melbourne – 11h40
* 6 May 2011: Lions vs Cheetahs
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 19h10
* 7 May 2011: Chiefs vs Highlanders
Hamilton – 09h35
* 7 May 2011: Waratahs vs Force
Sydney – 11h40
* 7 May 2011: Stormers vs Crusaders
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 17h05
* 7 May 2011: Sharks vs Brumbies
Shark Tank, Durban – 19h10
* Bulls Bye

Week 13:


* 13 May 2011: Highlanders vs Hurricanes
Dunedin – 09h35
* 13 May 2011: Reds vs Blues
Brisbane – 11h40
* 14 May 2011: Chiefs vs Stormers
Hamilton – 09h35
* 14 May 2011: Brumbies vs Lions
Canberra – 11h40
* 14 May 2011: Bulls vs Rebels
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 17h05
* 14 May 2011: Cheetahs vs Crusaders
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 19h10
* Force/Sharks/Waratahs Bye

Week 14:

* 20 May 2011: Blues vs Stormers
Auckland – 09h35
* 21 May 2011: Crusaders vs Chiefs
Christchurch – 09h35
* 21 May 2011: Waratahs vs Lions
Sydney – 11h40
* 21 May 2011: Force vs Brumbies
Perth – 14h05
* 21 May 2011: Cheetahs vs Rebels
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 17h05
* 21 May 2011: Sharks vs Bulls
Shark Tank, Durban – 19h10
* Hurricanes/Highlanders/Reds Bye

Week 15:

* 27 May 2011: Hurricanes vs Force
Wellington – 09h35
* 28 May 2011: Highlanders vs Lions
Dunedin – 09h35
* 28 May 2011: Brumbies vs Stormers
Canberra – 11h40
* 28 May 2011: Sharks vs Waratahs
Shark Tank, Durban – 17h05
* 28 May 2011: Bulls vs Cheetahs
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 19h10
* 29 May 2011: Reds vs Crusaders
Brisbane – 08h10
* Blues/Chiefs/Rebels Bye

Week 16:

* 3 June 2011: Highlanders vs Force
Dunedin – 09h35
* 3 June 2011: Rebels vs Stormers
Melbourne – 11h40
* 3 June 2011: Bulls vs Waratahs
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 19h10
* 4 June 2011: Hurricanes vs Lions
Wellington – 07h30
* 4 June 2011: Blues vs Chiefs
Auckland – 09h35
* 4 June 2011: Reds vs Brumbies
Brisbane – 11h40
* 4 June 2011: Cheetahs vs Sharks
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 17h05
* Crusaders bye

Week 17:

* 10 June 2011: Chiefs vs Hurricanes
Hamilton – 09h35
* 10 June 2011: Brumbies vs Rebels
Canberra – 11h40
* 11 June 2011: Crusaders vs Blues
Christchurch – 09h35
* 11 June 2011: Waratahs vs Highlanders
Sydney – 11h40
* 11 June 2011: Force vs Reds
Perth – 14h05
* 11 June 2011: Lions vs Sharks
Coca-Cola Park, Johannesburg – 16h05
* 11 June 2011: Stormers vs Bulls
Newlands Rugby Stadium, Cape Town – 18h10
* Cheetahs bye

Week 18:

* 17 June 2011: Blues vs Highlanders
Auckland – 09h35
* 17 June 2011: Rebels vs Force
Melbourne – 11h40
* 18 June 2011: Chiefs vs Reds
Hamilton – 07h30
* 18 June 2011: Crusaders vs Hurricanes
Christchurch – 09h35
* 18 June 2011: Waratahs vs Brumbies
Sydney – 11h40
* 18 June 2011: Bulls vs Sharks
Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria – 17h05
* 18 June 2011: Cheetahs vs Stormers
Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein – 19h10
* Lions bye

Week 19:

* Qualifiers:
* 24 June 2011: TBC vs TBC
* 25 June 2011: TBC vs TBC

Week 20:

* Semi-finals:
* 1 July 2011: TBC vs TBC
* 2 July 2011: TBC vs TBC

Week 21:

* Final:
* 9 July 2011: TBC vs TBC

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 14:17
by Sojourn
End of week 16.

Australian Conference
Pos Team P W D L B PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Reds 14 11 0 3 2 386 277 109 41 28 6 58
2 Waratahs 14 8 0 6 2 324 238 86 38 19 7 47
3 Western Force 14 4 2 8 2 285 368 -83 20 37 4 32
4 Brumbies 14 3 1 10 2 275 379 -104 26 35 6 28
5 Melbourne Rebels 14 3 0 11 2 240 511 -271 26 67 3 23

New Zealand Conference
Pos Team P W D L B PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Blues 14 9 1 4 2 356 296 60 38 30 9 55
2 Crusaders 14 9 1 4 2 397 248 149 42 25 7 53
3 Highlanders 14 8 0 6 2 273 277 -4 28 26 5 45
4 Hurricanes 14 5 1 8 2 301 364 -63 30 38 9 39
5 Chiefs 14 6 0 8 2 303 311 -8 30 27 6 38

South African Conference
Pos Team P W D L B PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 DHL Stormers 14 11 0 3 2 340 204 136 28 13 5 57
2 Sharks 14 9 0 5 2 351 286 65 36 23 7 51
3 Vodacom Bulls 14 9 0 5 2 374 328 46 37 34 5 49
4 Toyota Cheetahs 15 5 0 10 1 401 393 8 40 45 11 35
5 MTN Lions 15 3 0 12 1 321 447 -126 33 46 7 23

Combined Log
Pos Team P W D L B PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Reds 14 11 0 3 2 386 277 109 41 28 6 58
2 DHL Stormers 14 11 0 3 2 340 204 136 28 13 5 57
3 Blues 14 9 1 4 2 356 296 60 38 30 9 55
4 Crusaders 14 9 1 4 2 397 248 149 42 25 7 53
5 Sharks 14 9 0 5 2 351 286 65 36 23 7 51
6 Vodacom Bulls 14 9 0 5 2 374 328 46 37 34 5 49
7 Waratahs 14 8 0 6 2 324 238 86 38 19 7 47
8 Highlanders 14 8 0 6 2 273 277 -4 28 26 5 45
9 Hurricanes 14 5 1 8 2 301 364 -63 30 38 9 39
10 Chiefs 14 6 0 8 2 303 311 -8 30 27 6 38
11 Toyota Cheetahs 15 5 0 10 1 401 393 8 40 45 11 35
12 Western Force 14 4 2 8 2 285 368 -83 20 37 4 32
13 Brumbies 14 3 1 10 2 275 379 -104 26 35 6 28
14 MTN Lions 15 3 0 12 1 321 447 -126 33 46 7 23
15 Melbourne Rebels 14 3 0 11 2 240 511 -271 26 67 3 23

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 14:21
by lancelot
OK, guys, sorry for deleting some posts, was the only way that I could get Sojourns results post in the correct place.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 19:33
by SykomantiS
Ok, first noob question, what's a bye? At the end of each weekly list, one team is listed as bye. WTH does that mean? :oops:

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 19:35
by thEnaileDonE
SykomantiS wrote:Ok, first noob question, what's a bye? At the end of each weekly list, one team is listed as bye. WTH does that mean? :oops:
Means they don't have an opponent... they can rest until the next week-end...

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 19:35
by KatrynKat
it means that they don't play that week, they are resting... as there are an odd number of teams playing it's impossible for all the teams to play during that weekend.... i think.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 14 Feb 2011, 19:37
by SykomantiS
How come some of the weeks then have 3 teams listed?

Ah, wait, nevermind. I see what's happening there.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 09:37
by Sojourn
Old news, but even so...
I am saddened by Meyer Bosman's move to the Sharks.
Likewise Bjorn Basson to the Bulls.

Although I dislike it, in today's pro system player movement must be accepted.
My mind is still stuck in 80's rugby where your team makeup (for the most part) remained your team makeup and that was it.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 09:57
by lancelot
I do agree with all that you said, today money rules.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 16 Feb 2011, 10:16
by Sojourn
lancelot wrote:I do agree with all that you said, today money rules.
Don't get me started on the mass-exodus to WP, begun with Rassie.
Ols school regional loyalty gave the games a different flavor, some underlying camaradrie that I find totally missing in the modern format. :-/

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 09:31
by Sojourn
So the new sponsor for the FS Cheethas will be Toyota.
They have already revealed their match kit for the S15, so I assume that it will be changed again with the sponsor added? Or maybe just embroid the logo into the front somewhere in current stuff?

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 10:05
by Kronos
Sojourn wrote:So the new sponsor for the FS Cheethas will be Toyota.
They have already revealed their match kit for the S15, so I assume that it will be changed again with the sponsor added? Or maybe just embroid the logo into the front somewhere in current stuff?
Perhaps they'll just replace the Harley parade with a Yaris parade? :P

I also dislike the continuous moving of players. This year the Lions are ruling the money, and therefore most of the player movement.
One of these days they're literally going to have matches as portrayed in Leon Schuster's "Sweet and Short", where both teams playing a match will be randomly selected by a lottery system.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 10:24
by Sojourn
Kronos wrote:Perhaps they'll just replace the Harley parade with a Yaris parade? :P
^^
:argue:

:slap: :violent3:

:knob: :bootyshake:

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 17 Feb 2011, 17:59
by doo_much
Kronos wrote: I also dislike the continuous moving of players. This year the Lions are ruling the money, and therefore most of the player movement.
^^
+1

It's kinda irksome - same as floor crossing in parliament. :?

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 10:10
by lancelot
And the first game is being played right now!

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 10:17
by SykomantiS
Stuck at work. Post scores at the end?

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 10:34
by lancelot
Sojourn will post yes!

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 10:41
by Sojourn
Massive shoulder charge from ma nonu red carded, they defended their score with 14 man.
Hurricanes had every chance to win it, they seriously need a kicker - missing basic penalties from semi-close proximity cost them the game. They also spoiled their own chances when getting close to the tryline with crappy passing and weak penetration.

The final score is Hurricanes 9 Highlanders 14

Scorers
Hurricanes
Tries - 0
Pen - Aaron Cruden 3

Cards - Ma'a Nonu (29) yellow, Ma'a Nonu 50 (second yellow = Red)

Highlanders
Tries - Lima Sopoaga
Pen - Lima Sopoaga 2, Robbie Robinson
Con -
Drop -
Cards - Brayden Mitchell (70) yellow.

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 11:18
by thEnaileDonE
Ah, finally it has begun... go BULLE! (Good luck, because I suspect we are going to need it on Elispark today!)

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 11:38
by Monty
I found a link for adding to google calendar for those of you who use it (And you can ad it as a web calendar to outlook, and I'm guessing it will also work in other calendar apps):

webcal://ical.mac.com/john_holley/Super%20XV.ics

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 11:42
by thEnaileDonE
Monty wrote:I found a link for adding to google calendar for those of you who use it (And you can ad it as a web calendar to outlook, and I'm guessing it will also work in other calendar apps):

webcal://ical.mac.com/john_holley/Super%20XV.ics
Good find (not getting it to work in Kontact for KDE though... then again not overly surprised)

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 11:46
by Monty
thEnaileDonE wrote:
Monty wrote:I found a link for adding to google calendar for those of you who use it (And you can ad it as a web calendar to outlook, and I'm guessing it will also work in other calendar apps):

webcal://ical.mac.com/john_holley/Super%20XV.ics
Good find (not getting it to work in Kontact for KDE though... then again not overly surprised)
Click Click (it may work, but may not, so don't shoot me if it doesn't)

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 11:57
by thEnaileDonE
Thanks Monty... seems a bit hit and miss... besides I am sure I will be able to stay up to date with the games etc. :)

Re: Super 15 - 2011

Posted: 19 Feb 2011, 12:55
by Sojourn
on front page I have posted a link with an outlook import into cal