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jamin_za wrote:which is not to say they cannot be scared by TV events - just that the chance for lasting damage is negligible.
Agreed, but dealing with the immediate effects is nearly as tiring as worrying about lasting damage.
THE_STIG wrote:They will be exactly the same.....advertisements can't possibly cause problems
Spoken like a true teenager. ;)
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jamin_za wrote:which is not to say they cannot be scared by TV events - just that the chance for lasting damage is negligible.
Agreed, but dealing with the immediate effects is nearly as tiring as worrying about lasting damage.
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Yes, from a parents perspective (which I don't have) your argument has much validity
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The fine should of been around the R5000000 mark, it costs me R5000 to fill my truck with diesel.
Yes, little ones feel fear, not of just the visuals but because of the accompanying sounds of terror, screaming and crying.
If you cannot understand or grasp this, I suggest that you have have a look at little ones who have been brought up in an environment of violence, constant arguing and other parental abuse. Many children are afraid of Barney, Santa and other perceived monsters, take note and sort it out. My grandson gets upset if I shout at taxi drivers but laughs if I hoot, so now I only hoot! :P
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lancelot wrote:The fine should of been around the R5000000 mark, it costs me R5000 to fill my truck with diesel.
Yes, little ones feel fear, not of just the visuals but because of the accompanying sounds of terror, screaming and crying.
If you cannot understand or grasp this, I suggest that you have have a look at little ones who have been brought up in an environment of violence, constant arguing and other parental abuse. Many children are afraid of Barney, Santa and other perceived monsters, take note and sort it out. My grandson gets upset if I shout at taxi drivers but laughs if I hoot, so now I only hoot! :P
I wish Neka was afraid of Barney. :(
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Bladerunner wrote:
Stuart wrote:I have a three year old who gets nightmares by watching disturbing images she may not understand.
When I was three I was told to shut up and go to bed or I'd get a reason to cry :lol:
We've noticed the emotional scars, yes. ;)

I so wish we lived in a TVless society. My nieces and nephew are addicted to the darn thing. :|
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Bladerunner wrote:
Stuart wrote:I have a three year old who gets nightmares by watching disturbing images she may not understand.
When I was three I was told to shut up and go to bed or I'd get a reason to cry :lol:
We've noticed the emotional scars, yes. ;)
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I don't know what all the fuss is about.

It's like we are moving towards the US mentality.
Complaining about small petty things.

Yes, images such as this can be disturbing to younger children and they might have nightmares. Boo-hoo. They will get over it as I did, and I turned out ok.

If M-Net continually showed/advertised these things on a regular basis in those "family" slot times, then fine. Complain. But don't get your panties in a knot about a possible one time thing.

Shees, seems people have nothing else to do than complain complain complain. I get the feeling there is people out there just sitting...waiting for someone to do something wrong and then they gather the town folk, grab their pitchforks and stakes and storm the castle. :roll:
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IcePick88 wrote:I don't know what all the fuss is about.

It's like we are moving towards the US mentality.
Complaining about small petty things.

Yes, images such as this can be disturbing to younger children and they might have nightmares. Boo-hoo. They will get over it as I did, and I turned out ok.

If M-Net continually showed/advertised these things on a regular basis in those "family" slot times, then fine. Complain. But don't get your panties in a knot about a possible one time thing.

Shees, seems people have nothing else to do than complain complain complain. I get the feeling there is people out there just sitting...waiting for someone to do something wrong and then they gather the town folk, grab their pitchforks and stakes and storm the castle. :roll:
You don't have kids, do you?
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I have a kid and yes there are certain stuff I try to avoid him seeing. however if you keep your kid in the dark and only allowing things like tellitubies and dora the explorer to be seen they get a fear of reality. with that being said... my little monster often scare the living daylights out of me with the things he does in the yard... we will NEVER be able to completely babyproof the world. Yes age restrictions are good but even all ages movies like cartoons have a certain "fear factor" to it. my kid had nightmares about Bruce in finding Nemo...
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Stuart wrote:
IcePick88 wrote:I don't know what all the fuss is about.

It's like we are moving towards the US mentality.
Complaining about small petty things.

Yes, images such as this can be disturbing to younger children and they might have nightmares. Boo-hoo. They will get over it as I did, and I turned out ok.

If M-Net continually showed/advertised these things on a regular basis in those "family" slot times, then fine. Complain. But don't get your panties in a knot about a possible one time thing.

Shees, seems people have nothing else to do than complain complain complain. I get the feeling there is people out there just sitting...waiting for someone to do something wrong and then they gather the town folk, grab their pitchforks and stakes and storm the castle. :roll:
You don't have kids, do you?
No I don't but I was not brought up in front of a TV.

You cannot shelter your kids from the world like fallen said. Like my nephews. They were not allowed to watch a movie that was age restricted to 16 until the day they were 16 and now they are so anti-social they would bore you to death just sitting there.

So a good dose of reality is sometimes good.
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And yet the same adults who are complaining would happily send their kids to Sunday school and subject them to religious teachings which are full of violence. :lol:
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Prime wrote:And yet the same adults who are complaining would happily send their kids to Sunday school and subject them to religious teachings which are full of violence. :lol:
And misogyny and incest and genocide and and and... but thats only vaguely relevant to this discussion

Nice troll tho ;)
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fallen_angel wrote:I have a kid
You do? :shock:
IcePick88 wrote: You cannot shelter your kids from the world like fallen said.
I hate to break it to you, but it is precisely a parent's job to shelter their children from things in the world that will prove harmful to them. If you plan not to shelter your kids from harmful stuff, rather give them up for adoption when they are born. ;)
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I agree with mousey - you change once you have kids. You make mistakes and quickly learn that the harmless things are actually very harmful.
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Stuart wrote: I hate to break it to you, but it is precisely a parent's job to shelter their children from things in the world that will prove harmful to them. If you plan not to shelter your kids from harmful stuff, rather give them up for adoption when they are born. ;)
Then how are they meant to learn? Granted there are some very dangerous items in the household where baby gloves are required but its the responsibility of the parent to make sure those items are kept away/out of reach of the said child. This whole thing about keeping kids from seeing horror ads well thats just silly but again its age dependent. And in this case airing the promo at 18:00 that is a wrong time but what is on T.V. at 18:00 for kids? If memory serves it's all garbage anyway Egoli and such crud and lets be honest if you have your child watching that you are damaging them anyway, teaching them murder and backstabbing is alright and how to form bad relationships.

/will keep away because this I dont have children and if I did they would be scared beyond all saving anyway...

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Stuart wrote:
fallen_angel wrote:I have a kid
IcePick88 wrote: You cannot shelter your kids from the world like fallen said.
I hate to break it to you, but it is precisely a parent's job to shelter their children from things in the world that will prove harmful to them. If you plan not to shelter your kids from harmful stuff, rather give them up for adoption when they are born. ;)
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Reminds me of this. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's inevitable that they will sooner or later experience something like these adds, but at least you can explain that the adds are not real.

The real world is far worse. Do they have access to newspapers? Magazines?
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IcePick88 wrote: It's inevitable that they will sooner or later experience something like these adds, but at least you can explain that the adds are not real.
Sooner or later, yes. They will also sooner or later experience traffic. Does that mean I should leave my gate open while she plays outside and if I find her playing in the middle of the highway I should just shrug my shoulders and say that she would have eventually experienced highway traffic anyway?

Are you really naive enough to think that parents do not have the responsibility to protect their children from that which is harmful to them? If so, I SERIOUSLY hope that you never have kids!

As kids get older you allow them exposure to more and more stuff, and then teach them accordingly. That is not the same as indiscriminately allowing them to do whatever they want at any age.
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Yes they do find magazines. I really don't think my 5year old needed to know what gay was and why gays kill their lovers (You magazine front cover). You cannot protect them completely - but you can do the best that you can.
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WTF are you doing with a gay mag :shock: :shock: , all gays should be burned.....
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THE_STIG wrote:WTF are you doing with a gay mag :shock: :shock: , all gays should be burned.....
Tribble wrote:Yes they do find magazines. I really don't think my 5year old needed to know what gay was and why gays kill their lovers (You magazine front cover). You cannot protect them completely - but you can do the best that you can.
Didn't know the You was a gay mag.... :?:
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Stuart wrote:
fallen_angel wrote:I have a kid
You do? :shock:
Scarry thought :lol: Hes turning 7 this year
Tribble wrote:You cannot protect them completely - but you can do the best that you can.
I could not have said it better myself. The fact of the matter is that WHEN they do come across something disturbing like the ad or Bruce the shark, best to do is be a parent and work through the situation rather than going on a rampage and cursing the creators... like the whole debacle with pokemon and yu-gi-oh being satanistic... which actually turned in court and what happened? It was still showing at the same timeslot
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The pokemon yu-gi-oh debate, I did not really like either program but I don't think it was satanic
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The argument they (anglican and methodist churches) raised was that the symbols used in said programs was from the budhist believe and henceforth because it is not christian it has to be satanic... I just started laughing
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fallen_angel wrote:
Stuart wrote:
fallen_angel wrote:I have a kid
You do? :shock:
Scarry thought :lol: Hes turning 7 this year
Ja, I don't know why, but this took me by surprise. Never pictured a fallen_angel with a kid. :lol:

Just in case you don't get it enough from your family, when are you having the next one? :twisted:
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fallen_angel wrote:The argument they (anglican and methodist churches) raised was that the symbols used in said programs was from the budhist believe and henceforth because it is not christian it has to be satanic... I just started laughing
Me too, how is a cartoon satanic :lol: :lol:
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