Is There Life After Death?

[Tribble]

Lol D33 - what we say has a basis in science. Granted - I am currently not religious and don't really have a particular faith. You could say - been there and done that. Apart from people's near death experiences and faith - there is no other way to believe that there is something after this life. We can guess and we can dream - but that is all it is. Perceptions. Something we hope is real. Even people who have experienced past life memories - who is to say that it isn't the mind's wishful thinkings.

I am happy to know that when this life is done - I will return to what I once was. Whether that is inert energy or nothing - I am ok with that. I have no need to believe that I will frolic in the clouds with loved ones that have passed before me. If my energy can remain here (a spirit or ghost perhaps), then I would be happy too. All that really matters is this life and how we live it now. Worry about the next one - if and when there is one.

[Moses]

Lol D33 - what we say has a basis in science.

The ***** you spew has no basis in science. Quite the opposite. Just because you use words like "energy" and "inert" does not make it science. It makes it pseudo-scientific nonsense -worse than faith in my opinion, at least they're honest about why they believe.

[Tribble]

Oh dear Moses - Ignorance is definitely no excuse. To revise on "what is energy" and "what is matter" - please refer to the following link --> Some science stuff. You will see that although you appear to be as thick as a brick, you are in fact made up of tiny molecules that vibrate (yes even yours, although yours are abnormally slow). This is defined as energy.

You mention that "they" are honest in what they believe......surely the fact that I admit that I do not believe anything, or even have an opinion as to what happens, makes your statement stupid. It clearly shows me that you either didn't read my comment or failed to understand what I was getting at. Either way - apart from the energy expended on this response, your post was useless. (Energy expended = calories burnt)

[doo_much]

Is There Life After Death?

Tricky question. People are all dying to know.

Why is it relevant though. Live as though there is an afterlife, if there isn't, you'll be too dead to be disappointed?

[justinufo]

Ask Biggie Smalls

[Moses]

Oh dear Moses - Ignorance is definitely no excuse. To revise on "what is energy" and "what is matter" - please refer to the following link --> Some science stuff. You will see that although you appear to be as thick as a brick, you are in fact made up of tiny molecules that vibrate (yes even yours, although yours are abnormally slow). This is defined as energy.

You mention that "they" are honest in what they believe......surely the fact that I admit that I do not believe anything, or even have an opinion as to what happens, makes your statement stupid. It clearly shows me that you either didn't read my comment or failed to understand what I was getting at. Either way - apart from the energy expended on this response, your post was useless. (Energy expended = calories burnt)

I know what matter and energy are. The idea that the science behind these concepts support the idea of life after death is simply bunk. And the fact that "energy is never lost" suggests that our energy "lives" on in some conscious form is also bunk. It's pseudoscience, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience "Sciency" sounding words does not make something scientific.

I know you don't believe, good for you, but if ever you change your mind, don't try to justify it using the idea of "energy" and "matter", rather take it on faith.

[Tribble]

@Moses - I would never try and justify life after death. I believe it is our egotistical nature that forces us to try and find meaning for this existence of ours. And which tries to see meaning in our deaths too. We have a deep desire to continue - to have been vital and what is more vital than knowing there is a better place to go to after here? It makes anything we have to endure now, more tolerable. The proverbial carrot for the beaten horse as it plows the land.

So, whether faith ever gets involved or not - I doubt that I will ever try and justify a belief in an after life. If there is one - great - if there isn't - great. It is now that counts (and I have not managed to convince myself that this isn't all just imaginary anyway -= perhaps some entity's dream).

But this is my opinion (my perception) - others will have their own.

[StarPhoenix]

@Moses - I would never try and justify life after death. I believe it is our egotistical nature that forces us to try and find meaning for this existence of ours. And which tries to see meaning in our deaths too. We have a deep desire to continue - to have been vital and what is more vital than knowing there is a better place to go to after here? It makes anything we have to endure now, more tolerable. The proverbial carrot for the beaten horse as it plows the land.

So, whether faith ever gets involved or not - I doubt that I will ever try and justify a belief in an after life. If there is one - great - if there isn't - great. It is now that counts (and I have not managed to convince myself that this isn't all just imaginary anyway -= perhaps some entity's dream).

But this is my opinion (my perception) - others will have their own.

I agree with the sentences I have emphasised. I realised this once I hit double figures. Quite a blow to the ego it was too-what one might call a life-changing event.

[Tribble]

Double figures - meaning 10? Most people get it when they hit 30 or 40

My mom and hubby think my taste in movies, music and literature are all due to a midlife crisis. He told Richard Perry that that is the only reason I listen to TuksFM

I guess that as we get older - people do become more concerned about their mortality. Guess now would be a good time to become a vampire - then you would not have to worry about the afterlife

[GreyWolf]

You know what I would do if I ever witnessed anything truly paranormal? I would become semi-rich:

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/abo ... randi.html

That's all I have to say about that.

[rustypup]

That's all I have to say about that.

<backs away from the thread...>

[Synthesis]

I've been thinking about this a lot lately and have come to this conclusion from a Christian point of view concerning "life after death on earth, spirits, ghosts and all that..."

Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment

There is no “in between” state of existence for us between death and eventual eternal life or eternal damnation.

Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

Yes, I do believe there is eternal life after death. Just depends where...

That's the basic questions answered but then there's people who absolutely believe in spirits. Here's my view:

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve

it is certainly possible that such things as “spirit beings” exist, but it is not possible that such a thing as the “spirit of people who have died” also exists.
Because of this, it is certainly reasonable to assume that a demon could in fact appear to someone as the spirit of a deceased person–especially that of a loved one–if it helped the demon to carry out its evil purposes.

[hamin_aus]

That's the basic questions answered

Only if you think the bible is a work of non-fiction.

[KALSTER]

I have to say, I am pretty surprised by the poll results. I would have expected many more "yes" answers than "no" or "I don't know" ("don't intend to die" aren't serious answers). Perhaps it is because the type of person that might frequent a forum about computers (even though by far the majority of posts have nothing to do with computing. Yes, I mean YOU spammers!), are on average more technically inclined and tend to think more logically at things?

[doo_much]

(even though by far the majority of posts have nothing to do with computing. Yes, I mean YOU spammers!)

Interesting comment from someone posting in a spam thread that doesn't have anything to do with computer?

Life after death? Dunno but hope the Buddhists have the whole reincarnation thing kinda right.
I'd love to be a dog for a short while...

[KALSTER]

Interesting comment from someone posting in a spam thread that doesn't have anything to do with computer?

Nobody's perfect.

Reincarnation doesn't make sense to me. How would you know about it anyway? No reincarnated being is supposed to know where they come from, are they? So whether souls get reincarnated or not, they would never know about it anyway. It would be like if they one day invent teleport machines where the body at the source gets destroyed and replicated exactly on the other side. If you spoke to the transported guy he would be the exact guy that got zapped on the other end and he would feel the same way we all do when we wake up in the morning, but if he had a non-physical soul, it would be missing.

[Judas]

I'd wager you can guess which way I voted .

[DeathPing]

Yup! I believe that there is an eternal, glorious life after death OR an eternal, damned and painful everafter.

[doo_much]

Interesting comment from someone posting in a spam thread that doesn't have anything to do with computer?

Nobody's perfect.

Reincarnation doesn't make sense to me. How would you know about it anyway? ---snip---

Thanks for summing up my feelings avout religion in general... Who knows, maybe the Buddhists have a Holy Book telling them that's how it's going to go down?

Me? I can just dream.

Yep.

A dog.

No wait.

Make that a mongrel.

With ample water.






And many trees to mark.



But seriously. The idea of a life after death the form of reincarnation appeals to me because I like the idea of getting a second chance?

[Prime]

Viagra, bringing the dead back to life?

[Stuart]

I'd wager you can guess which way I voted .

Judas? I think your presence just answered this question!

[Stuart]

In this website, an attempt has been made to provide analysis and ideas that may not be readily found elsewhere whilst at the same time trying to present the most significant and diverse evidence that is known about this subject in an objective manner while taking a scientific rational approach as best I can without bringing faith into the equation.

[jee]

would it be possible?

[DeathPing]

I guess so... Yuck!

[Tribble]

I have no problem with them letting nature take care of the corpses - it is the preparation of these that puts me off. While they are strangers lying there, I am fine with it. If it was someone I knew and had loved, I think that I would feel very different about it.

I side with Doo when it comes to the life after. I choose to believe that we do venture here more than once. I am of the opinion that there cannot be an infinite number of souls, so either we have souless beings walking around (and that is possible) or we come down more than once. Besides - I like the idea of being able to learn and come back as a better being every time.