Blackout for injustice - copyright law

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Blackout for injustice - copyright law

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Should your Internet be disconnected based on accusations of copyright infringement without a trial and without any evidence ?

Is Internet access is a basic human right?
Former New Zealand Labour MP Judith Tizard said:

It is easier for ISPs, Internet Service Providers, to cut off anyone who might be breaking the law.
According to Section 92a and 92c of the Copyright Act coming into law on the 28th of February, a "copyright holder" can get you kicked off an ISP without having to provide any evidence of an actual infringement.

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And what happens if you actually own an original of the music that you are getting off a torrent, or book. I have cds that cannot be used in a cd drive because sony lost the plot a few years back. :mad:

unfortunately, the right to privacy does not exist online. :(
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i'd like to see how long this lasts before it is successfully challenged
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I would have thought that Internet Access is more of a luxury than a basic human right.

As for having one's internet access cut without any proof of having committed a crime, will that does sound dodgy to me.
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everything is a human right these days :roll:
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I consider internet access to be a service rather than a right. It's not (yet) a necessity.

Isn't an internet subscription a legal contract between a service provider and a client. If so, the provider would need a very good reason to block a client, or they would get sued. I don't think an alleged copyright infringement would be good enough.

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Actually, I think an ISP should reserve the right to stop anyone's access if there is a reasonable suspicion of abuse.

I said reasonable.
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endev8003 wrote:I consider internet access to be a service rather than a right. It's not (yet) a necessity.

Isn't an internet subscription a legal contract between a service provider and a client. If so, the provider would need a very good reason to block a client, or they would get sued. I don't think an alleged copyright infringement would be good enough.

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endev8003 wrote:I consider internet access to be a service rather than a right. It's not (yet) a necessity.
/points accusing finger of doom ..."Draconian !!!"
What do you mean with ..."a service"... pfft.
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The ISPs are being strong armed (mainly) by the RIAA/MPAA and crew. The copyright holders are threatening to sue the ISPs for facilitating illegal file sharing. The solution? Just use encryption, they won't be able to see what you're doing. I predict that encryption will become much more prevalent in the future.
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jamin_za wrote:Actually, I think an ISP should reserve the right to stop anyone's access if there is a reasonable suspicion of abuse.

I said reasonable.
Define "abuse" please....

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Sojourn wrote:Define "abuse" please....
Consult your ISP's terms of use agreement :P
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