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StarBound wrote:Does it hold any referance to the original macross/Robotech saga?
Yes and No.

From what I can see, it follows from the Macross 7 timeline (Macross Zero -> Macross -> Macross Plus -> Macross 7).

The Macross series is the series used for the first saga of Robotech, but I think they changed a lot of the technobabble to make it more compatible with the other two sagas (for example protoculture: it's an ancient race in Macross, but a energy source in Robotech).


According to Wikipedia, the complete Macross F has started to air from 3rd of April, with the third episode airing tonight. They have six episodes listed.
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endev8003 wrote:
StarBound wrote:Does it hold any referance to the original macross/Robotech saga?
Yes and No.

From what I can see, it follows from the Macross 7 timeline (Macross Zero -> Macross -> Macross Plus -> Macross 7).

The Macross series is the series used for the first saga of Robotech, but I think they changed a lot of the technobabble to make it more compatible with the other two sagas (for example protoculture: it's an ancient race in Macross, but a energy source in Robotech).


According to Wikipedia, the complete Macross F has started to air from 3rd of April, with the third episode airing tonight. They have six episodes listed.
No protoculture was always an energy source all the wars that broke out between the humans Invid and other alien races were due to protoculture and the power one gains by controlling it.
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No protoculture was always an energy source all the wars that broke out between the humans Invid and other alien races were due to protoculture and the power one gains by controlling it.
I always got the impression from Macross Zero that the alien in the last episode was one of the protoculture. :?

I won't argue with you, larch. You probably know more about it than I do.
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Protoculture was a powerful energy source, a catalyst in genetic engineering, a hallucinatory substance, and the described "lifeblood" of two different races. As the "foodstuff" and the by-product of the Flower of Life, it is used by one race, the Invid, in "finding the ultimate lifeform through the ritualistic eating." The Robotech Masters also call it "the lifeblood of our existence," and say their "foremost goal is to control this life force by conquering Earth."
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larch wrote:Protoculture was a powerful energy source, a catalyst in genetic engineering, a hallucinatory substance, and the described "lifeblood" of two different races. As the "foodstuff" and the by-product of the Flower of Life, it is used by one race, the Invid, in "finding the ultimate lifeform through the ritualistic eating." The Robotech Masters also call it "the lifeblood of our existence," and say their "foremost goal is to control this life force by conquering Earth."
That is the definition of protoculture in the Robotech universe.

In the Macross universe it is actually a race (or culture):
In the world of Macross Protoculture serves both to refer to the first extraterrestrial humanoid civilization itself ("Protoculture" being "Early Culture" or "The First Culture) and earthling culture itself.

According to the official chronology of The Super Dimension Fortress Macross Japanese animated series, the Protoculture became the first advanced civilization in the known universe 500,000 years ago. Protoculture's first space colonization began with the use of sub-light-velocity spaceships after 2400 years.
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endev8003 is right

In the Macross universe, Protoculture was the earliest culture where men and woman, or Meltran and Zeltran lived together.
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Well this aint at all bad. Should I watch anything prior to watching this though?

Also watching Gundam 00, last ep #11, not too bad either.
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Rayne wrote:Well this aint at all bad. Should I watch anything prior to watching this though?

Also watching Gundam 00, last ep #11, not too bad either.
You can watch it as a standalone show no need for the other shows you might not get the techno babble now and then but thats about it.
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If you do watch previous series, I recommend you DON'T watch Macross 7.
I just watched the first five episodes, apart from the outdated animation style (which is not too much of a problem) the story seems to be HIGHLY focussed on a wannabe singer.
The blowing up and flying/fighting action is kinda secondary.
It annoyed me. :(
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Post by Rayne »

Nah I just wanna watch this so I'm glad it's stand-alone.

Thank you.
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Rayne wrote:Nah I just wanna watch this so I'm glad it's stand-alone.

Thank you.
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Yes, I'm pulling theirs.
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I remember Macross (am I right in thinking Robotech?) from then I was a little kid -I had no idea they made a sequel/follow-up -this is awesome, I now have two sequels to that cult favourite to look for! Thanks Larch!

To correct an earlier post, Macross Plus (I believe the first 4-part OVA, not the movie remake) did show on DSTV's old Scifi channel

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"Triangler," Maaya Sakamoto's opening theme song for the ongoing Macross Frontier space opera television anime, has stayed on Oricon's weekly top-10 chart for all Japanese singles for a second week. A week after its April 23 debut at #2, "Triangler" now stands at #6. The ending theme "Diamond Crevasse" officially launches on May 8, but it already ranks at #2 on Oricon's daily singles chart for May 6. May'n sings "Diamond Crevasse" as the fictional idol singer Sheryl Nome. Yoko Kanno (Macross Plus, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell) composed and arranged both songs.
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LOL! damn strait. I will have Yoko Kanno's kids just because she did the GITS SAC OST which I loved.
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Episode 14 was really good.
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Episode 7 was still the best :P
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True too, but personally too much singing's getting on me nerves. But, I'll admit Sheryl crying on stage unable to sing in First Strike was actually a sweet moment.

I still have no idea what's the story with Ranka though. You oke's sure I did not have to watch anything prior to this?

Why does the Vajra react to her? What is she?
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Rayne wrote:True too, but personally too much singing's getting on me nerves. But, I'll admit Sheryl crying on stage unable to sing in First Strike was actually a sweet moment.

I still have no idea what's the story with Ranka though. You oke's sure I did not have to watch anything prior to this?

Why does the Vajra react to her? What is she?
LOL@Rayne I have watched all of the series and I cant even tell you why, guess we will have to find out
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Post by Rayne »

I see. Just making sure, thought the shows like a legacy or something (like when they found the original Macross in episode 13) so I had the impression the story may have led up to the current happenings.
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Watch Robotech. It'll explain alot.
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SoulBlade wrote:Watch Robotech. It'll explain alot.
I wouldn't rely solely on Robotech. Some of the key explanations has changed in the conversion from Macross to Robotech.

I would rather look for a wiki or some other type of resource site for more information on some of the technicalities in Macross.
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SoulBlade wrote:Watch Robotech. It'll explain alot.
Err sorry I don't think watching Robotech would help.

http://www.robotech-universe.com/
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Yeah but the thing with wiki is your happily reading along and then without warning out of nowhere they give away the plot in that very next sentence.

I wont touch wiki without finishing a show first. No worries I'll just wait 'till they explain it later.
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check the link i gave you Ryan
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