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The UK's Independent Television Commission (ITC) has reportedly decided that Apple's claim of the G5 being "the world's fastest, most powerful personal computer" does not meet its standards for truth in advertising. Ars Technica and Slashdot both note the developments, saying the ITC is an independent entity that oversees advertising on commercial TV networks.

One curious aspect of this matter, reports the first site, is the fact that “apparently only eight viewers” complained about the ad. “That's a remarkably small number….”

I Thought Bondi Posted this Thread.

jy vergeet dat hierdie actually teen bondi se beginsil sal gaan en actually se dat Apple Mac nie die vinnigste desktop PC op die mark is nie al adverteer hulle dit so.

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I would have to agree that it would take only a minor refrazing of grammer to allow it some more airtime. Though the G5 may verry well not be the fastest personal computer at all. If you could disprove that by doing us all a big favour and post one of your intriguing articles together with a benchmark in which both the G5 and a duel Itanium 2 playes their roles I would be more than glad to mail the ITC myself and ask them to give leave Apple alone and air the damn advert. For the life of me I couldn't find a benchmark/comparison between the G5 and it's true rival (DUAL Itanium 2). Every bench I find places the G5 against dual Xeon or single P4 or AMD's. This I cannot understand because the Xeon is not a 64bit CPU and the others can't even run properly on a multi processor architecture.

I have to say though even if the Dual Itanium 2 kicks the G5 by a mile the G5 will still be a better buy cuz the Itanium 2 comes at one heck of a price. (MB = 7K, 1x CPU = 9.5k) If for this alone it would seem that the Itanium 2's advances would be considered obsolete.

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Following your assesment would mean that one should not compare Xeon CPU's with the G5 eather cuz the Xeon's are also server CPU's. The Xeon architecture was not intended to be available for desktop computing however it is. So is it with the Itanium 2 processors. They are not intended for desktop use however they are available on desktop computers. You just need to know where to look for the propper configuration and voila what you got is an Itanium 2 desktop computer.

+ show me where it sais that one cannot run 32bit code on an Itanium 2 processor. When one uses a 64bit OS one can run 32bit code on that OS without any problems cuz the OS converts all the calls made to 64bit. Though I dont see the problem with doing a 32bit call on a 64bit system. It would only mean that you can only do calls to less than half of the CPU's capacity meaning you do not pull the full advantage of the arcitecture. 11111111111111111111111111111111 = 32 bits pushing this value into an 64bit field would cause it to look something like 0000000000000000000000000000000011111111111111111111111111111111 = 64bit, Now how is that diffirent from the 32bit value. The low oreder bytes is in any way disgarded by the CPU cuz they are 0's and does not influence the value.

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bondi wrote:...Goldblum’s voice reads, “Introducing the Power Mac G5. The world’s fastest, most powerful personal computer.” He didn’t say anything specific regarding a competitor – comparing it to, say, a HP box with Athlon’s inside. That’s where the ITC is wrong, and that’s what they’re presuming. Apple’s claim is correct in the ad, because they’re not directly comparing it to anything.

I disagree - logically, if one says something is the fastest and most powerful, then by implication it's being compared to something - stated or not.

Technical rant is boring me....
I just thought that seeing as this is (another) Apple thread I'd add my inexperienced opinion about the Apple.
I went to the Apple shop in Sandton City. Dammit the stuff there is honestly da bomb.co.za!
I just want to hug the computers because they are like sooooo cute.
The screens were those type you only see in movies and the whole white theme is honestly the best direction. (I gotta admit, as slick as they might have seemed, the iMacs were a bit porno with their coloured cases - sorta like new Volksi Beetles).

To me, a Mac is one of those things that you have absolutely no idea how it works but you just want one because it looks so damn sweet.

Hey, yeah. Im going to dig out my old P1 and paint it Green. Now it looks sweet and performs like crap. NO OFFENCE TO APPLE, THEY ARE DAMN FAST!

Good point there Bondi, I'm not here to diss anyone or anything I just want to find the opinions behind the whole shebang cuz I personally don't think it's fair do pitch a 32bit cpu with a crappy mickysoft os against a 64bit cpu running one of the worlds best and most stable OS's. This is not however that I am trying to shift the point of the conversation but have you ever ran a comparison between a win 2000 and say RedHat 9.0 on the same hardware configuration. RedHat just kills mickysoft by miles + Novell together with Ximian and SUSE has come up with a unique breed of Linux together with a desktop and their own flav of OpenOffice that works with the native Mickysoft Office file formats. So for companies with workstations that simply need to do wordprocessing and browsing one can switch over to linux and completely avoid the whole Mickysoft tax situation where you have no choice but to pay them like mega $$$ yeach year for something you don't really use to its fullest extent. I for one has seen this working tuesday at Novell's offices in Sandton, Johannesburg at a TechUp session.

Coming back to the whole Apple vs Intel thing - I am not saying that the G5 is not the fastest CPU out there I just want someone to pitch it against something that is actually more to the mark so that one can get a clearer picture of what it actually is capable of.

I am currently busy evaluating a Duel Itanium 2 desktop system so don't tell me HP does not offer the Itanium 2 on their shelves. We are working together with some of our partners and got one for testing cuz we are looking to get some of them for our developers to work on. And boy is this thing a killer. No I am not allowed to take it to the Old farts lan on friday cuz they will sue the bejesis out of me if they were to ever find out that it even went out of the office. It is still the property of our partners

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this seems.....so.....familiar. have we been here before bondi????