Anime Traders Club : Members & FAQ's

maxi_lurv · Post by **maxi_lurv** » 29 Aug 2007, 15:38

hmmm....in that case how much is the "club advance fee"....hehe
does anyone here have a cheap HDD that i can buy?

AnArKi · Post by **AnArKi** » 12 Sep 2007, 23:25

Hi Off-The-Chart

If the club is still activate, I'd like to join pls. I've sent through my details earlier today. I've got some anime to share...

Complete
Afro Samurai
Basilisk - Kouga Ninpouchou
Berserk
Black Blood Brothers
Blood+
Death Note
Ergo Proxy
Full Metal Alchemist
Full Metal Panic
Full Metal Panic_TSR
Gun X Sword
Gundam Seed
Gundam Seed Destiny
Initial D
Inu Yasha
Karas
Monster
Samurai Champloo

Ongoing

Bleach
Darker Than Black
Devil May Cry
Naruto Shippuuden
Shigurui
Wangan Midnight

I've also got a few older shows on disc at home, but haven't yet compiled a full list

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 01 Nov 2007, 19:08

The Anime Traders Club hereby terminated.

Anime on the drive and shared prior will be airing on DSTV's Animax, as of November 3d 2007, in the very new feature.

Thus, licensed for SA broadcast.

It was fun while it lasted.

THE END

larch · Post by **larch** » 22 Nov 2007, 14:35

Rayne wrote:The Anime Traders Club hereby terminated.

Anime on the drive and shared prior will be airing on DSTV's Animax, as of November 3d 2007, in the very new feature.

Thus, licensed for SA broadcast.

It was fun while it lasted.

THE END

In actual fact Anime is not licensed in S.A yet Animax is broadcasting it locally through DSTV but they don't have the distribution rights to sell Anime in S.A. DSTV brought the right to show the channel here in S.A nothing else.

U can only claim a license once u start selling the physical dvds for region X locally and that would be companies like Poineer, ADV, Geneon ect.... and not Animax or DSTV

Till the "Film And Publication Board" : http://www.fpb.gov.za/ states otherwise but they have nothing on there regarding fansubs

anyway enough of my rant

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 22 Nov 2007, 21:33

Does that mean..... !?

blue-palm · Post by **blue-palm** » 25 Nov 2007, 20:35

yes... c'mon... does it mean?

mwahaha, maybe evil english animax will not ruin the anime trade

SoulBlade · Post by **SoulBlade** » 25 Nov 2007, 21:38

larch wrote:
Rayne wrote:The Anime Traders Club hereby terminated.

Anime on the drive and shared prior will be airing on DSTV's Animax, as of November 3d 2007, in the very new feature.

Thus, licensed for SA broadcast.

It was fun while it lasted.

THE END
In actual fact Anime is not licensed in S.A yet Animax is broadcasting it locally through DSTV but they don't have the distribution rights to sell Anime in S.A. DSTV brought the right to show the channel here in S.A nothing else.

U can only claim a license once u start selling the physical dvds for region X locally and that would be companies like Poineer, ADV, Geneon ect.... and not Animax or DSTV

Till the "Film And Publication Board" : http://www.fpb.gov.za/ states otherwise but they have nothing on there regarding fansubs

anyway enough of my rant

Since we're on the subject, when does fansubbed material become...illegal?

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 25 Nov 2007, 22:09

what larch wrote: U can only claim a license once u start selling the physical dvds for region X locally and that would be companies like Poineer, ADV, Geneon ect.... and not Animax or DSTV

I'd bet this is the answer.

SoulBlade · Post by **SoulBlade** » 25 Nov 2007, 22:45

Sojourn is going to have a fit.
Like we care...

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 25 Nov 2007, 22:53

So then, the pressing question, will we be resuming the club?

SoulBlade · Post by **SoulBlade** » 25 Nov 2007, 23:02

That's up to Rayne you know. And with him you never know.
If we get our shyte sorted out regarding licencing then I don't think he'll complain.

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 26 Nov 2007, 14:40

Well, I won't be drawing any conclusive opinions on that.

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 26 Nov 2007, 14:44

I don't know.

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 26 Nov 2007, 14:55

No pressure Rayne. Thanks to you many of us have already benefited from the club in no small way.

blue-palm · Post by **blue-palm** » 30 Nov 2007, 23:41

well, if the existing members want the club to continue... perhaps we could consider investing in another drive?

I wouldn't mind a joint venture into something like that

any ideas?

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 01 Dec 2007, 15:53

I'm game.

SoulBlade · Post by **SoulBlade** » 01 Dec 2007, 18:26

Let's first get our act together about legal issues.
Larch might be able to advise

ZeroS · Post by **ZeroS** » 01 Dec 2007, 19:02

Hmm... Good point. I would suppose that the legal principles applicable to western media would apply in the same way to its eastern counterpart.

Perhaps some research is in order....

D3PART3D · Post by **D3PART3D** » 16 Mar 2008, 15:51

So what's happening with this club? I want in! Wouldn't LordRage know something about licensing?

Post by **Anthro** » 16 Mar 2008, 17:21

Unfortunately the sharing has been ended.
# Even though control over the content of the drive was pretty good, some stuff still crept onto it that was licensed, thus Rayne decided (rather than getting fined / jailed) he would stop the circulation.

Obviously there are still some parties circulating Anime among themselves.
I would recommend people in this thread to be PM'ed so you can find out where what and when. - just so long as it is not publicly declared as a sharing community on this thread anymore.
(Just to satisfy the war mongers / anti-anime club) lets keep it like this. ?
Unfortunately there is not a clear law against it's distribution in SA, and thus the Admins / Mods decided to rather not let the sharing 'club' continue - even though many of us (including myself) LOVE anime.

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 16 Mar 2008, 17:22

I have been thinking of emailing SAFACT concerning fansubbed anime for a while now and I might just do that soon. There's a hellstorm of top-notch shows starting next month and I would like things clarified once and for all before such time comes.

At current I am not comfortable initiating trade whilst half the shows are broadcasted on pay-per-view national television. It does not take a rocket scientist to conclude that won't be a good idea.

So the answer is still a definate no, at least from my side. If you all wan't to start trade again, well, best of luck.

As a close there are a lot of technicalities as far as fansubbed anime's concerned coming this year. Just around the corner, in April to be exact, Japan is passing a new law making P2P filesharing illegal in state. So, there goes the RAW's. Without RAW's, there's nothing to be subbed now is there? Groups are already stating that it will not stop fansubs, but they are admitting that it will definately negatively affect their ability to do so.

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 16 Mar 2008, 17:27

Oh and yes, delete all these stickies as their no longer applicable. At the very least unsticky them please.

Post by **Anthro** » 16 Mar 2008, 17:29

Done
-Anthro

Rayne · Post by **Rayne** » 16 Mar 2008, 20:32

Thank you.