Worlds most kick-@$$ aircraft!

Post by **neon_chameleon** » 02 Jul 2006, 04:18

jamin_za wrote: The 'F' in F16, F18 and F22 stands for 'Fun'
The 'F' in F14 stands for 'statutory'

In the F16 it stands for fun too ?

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 02 Jul 2006, 04:20

16 is legit.
You have been missing out.

capanno · Post by **capanno** » 02 Jul 2006, 11:32

Id take on any plane with a Gripen. (talking about planes in service)

Saw it at the airshow. Outmenouvers a F16.

The only 4th generation plane in service if im not mistaking.

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 02 Jul 2006, 20:23

capanno wrote:The only 4th generation plane in service if im not mistaking.

You are very much mistaking...
Aircraft classified as fourth generation jet fighters are those in service approximately from 1980-2010. Representative fighters include the "teen" series of American fighters (F-14, F-15, F-16, and F/A-18 ) and the Soviet MiG-29 and Su-27. (Got that off wiki

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Nice plane!
And yes, in a dogfight an F16 would have a hard time keeping up with a Gripen because the Gripen is smaller and more manuverable.
But modern F16's are multirole planes, and as such carry longer ranged weapons, and have wider radar detection areas than Gripens.

capanno wrote:Id take on any plane with a Gripen. (talking about planes in service)

IMO in a 1v1 match your Gripen would get raped by the F22 (America), Su30 (Russia) and Eurofighter (Germany, Italy, Spain and the UK)

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 02 Jul 2006, 20:56

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=f4+fighter&hl=en

Also a LOVELY plane small and fast the F4 fighter

Post by **Monty** » 02 Jul 2006, 21:41

F/A - 22 Raptor

My fav tho is the Cheetah (Dont kno its proper name)

Post by **Monty** » 02 Jul 2006, 21:42

Sorry bout the double post

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 02 Jul 2006, 21:43

Nice Double Post!

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 02 Jul 2006, 22:50

The F35 Joint Strike Fighter

VoodooProphetII's baby

The non VTOL F35A will be in service in the USA later this year.

capanno · Post by **capanno** » 03 Jul 2006, 00:18

jamin_za wrote:You are very much mistaking...
Aircraft classified as fourth generation jet fighters are those in service approximately from 1980-2010.

Wel my bad then. Had the wrong info it seems.

Im very sceptical about the F22. Firstly, its taken forever to build. Project almost shut down. 1st Prototype after 10 (waits to be corrected) years crashed after a few seconds after takeoff. hmmm... Im not sure its even that menouverable. Yes its technologically superior and carries a moer load of weapons, but I doubt it will beat a gripen 1-1 in close quarters.

i dont know much about the new mig (29 is it?). what I hear its already better than the raptor.

Believe what I say. **** Chuck Norris. Im Rick James biatch.

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 03 Jul 2006, 01:58

What you are hearing is is utter balls, sir

The F22 is the most advanced multi-role air superiority fighter in the world.

The Gripen is a good plane, but a raptor would blow it out of the sky. Before it even knew there was a raptor nearby!
1v1, the F22 would NEVER have to engage a Gripen at close quarters. It has the ability to destroy several Gripens in BVR combat.

Even if they did engage in WVR comabt, the Gripens maneuverability in a dogfight would be mostly negated by the thrust vectoring on the bigger F22.

Against F16's and F18's the Gripen wins hands down, but it is outclassed by the F22 IMO.
The F-35A will also whip the Gripens butt methinks, but there is not enough info on this plane available to the public yet for me to really argue that.

Also, WRT the length of the F22 project... The Gripen started it's development in 1982 and the first prototype made its maiden flight on December 8, 1988 and the plane only entered service in 1997 8O
So you see, you dont build any of these planes overnight.

And the MIG29 is as old as the hills.

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 03 Jul 2006, 03:13

jamin_za wrote: And the MIG29 is as old as the hills.

Fully Agreed!

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~junap95/fighters/mig29.htm

Although its probly one of the best looking fighters of the ussr of its time

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 03 Jul 2006, 04:01

J2theT wrote:its probly one of the best looking fighters of the ussr of its time

And without a doubt the most competant.

But the Russians havent been sitting on their hands since then.

Here is the Su-35

Is there a slight resemblance to the Gripen - or vice versa? Maybe the Swedes are guilty of some copyright infringment on this one

Also the Su-47

This was to be the Russians answer to the F22. Unfortunately, this plane will probably never make it to production.
It would have been the first swept-wing military plane in production.
The forward facing wings actually give the aircraft much better maneuverability at high speed, but unless you use very strong (and expensive) alloys in the wings, they tend to bend at high G's.

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:06

A VERY good movie clip of some helis

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4231 ... 3ug3vg.jpg

And some F22 compilation

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1890.html

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:08

J2theT wrote:http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1890.html

Dude, go check the first page in this thread. I posted this vid there

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:13

lol!

Its Good though!

cYcLIc · Post by **cYcLIc** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:18

J2theT, don't bother posting anything on these forums cos chances are jamins already posted it.

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:20

The Harrier

NOt bad but OUTDATED!

Thats why the english still us them!

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 07 Jul 2006, 03:31

As far as VTOL planes go the harrier will only be truly outdated when the VTOL build of the F-35 comes into service.

Those Harriers did the Brits proud in the Falklands. The sub-sonic Sea Harriers scored 22 kills against the Argentine Mach-2 Dassault Mirages, and also shot down a helicopter, with no air combat loss to themselves.

cYcLIc wrote:J2theT, don't bother posting anything on these forums cos chances are jamins already posted it.

You know damn right

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 07 Jul 2006, 04:17

and how can we forget the plane that knows more about you then you do youreself

The AWACs

NOt bad but obviously best for one thing only! RECON!

cYcLIc · Post by **cYcLIc** » 07 Jul 2006, 04:23

Is that an easter egg on the plane?

+1

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 07 Jul 2006, 04:26

cYcLIc wrote:Is that an easter egg on the plane?

+1

That My friend is the strongest RADaR in AIR!

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/inf ... index3.htm

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 07 Jul 2006, 04:40

Yeah, AWACs are a must-have in any air engagement.

The only problem is they are big and slow and easy to spot and shoot at using passive radar.

J2theT · Post by **J2theT** » 07 Jul 2006, 05:47

The A10 Thunderbolt a must have against tanks

Website · Post by **hamin_aus** » 07 Jul 2006, 05:59

Russia's version of the A-10: The Su-25 'Frogfoot'