"Jacob Zuma Supporters Pull Motorists From Cars"

[rustypup]

stole peoples' land, raped the women and generally made the people they found here's lives hell I guess.

still romanticising about the "noble savage" there, i see...

it's not all that much of a shocker, folks...

[1rr3t4t3d]

By us you mean the white people who came to South Africa and stole peoples' land, raped the women and generally made the people they found here's lives hell I guess.

ooh confused person alert.. where do you get that BS !! Stole whose land, The ZULU the xosa, sotho, the only people that can be peeved off about land being stolen is the SAN. The rest of the people also traveled here, might have been a couple of years before the white man, but they still killed for that land.
Then we came and actually tried at one stage to buy the land in a fair deal form the Zulus, and they slaughter the people that wanted to buy the land.

and how did I make their lives hell. WTF did I do. nothing, so why must I have a hard time for the **** my forefathers did. What we the whites did do was make South-Africa the most civilized and advanced country in Africa. Now dont go and make such statments agian before thinking it through .. ok

[freeboy]

Not at all rusty The savage was everything but noble, he was human after all. Look at Shaka, like any warlord he totally crushed those he conquered.

[freeboy]

ooh confused person alert.. where do you get that BS !! Stole whose land, The ZULU the xosa, sotho, the only people that can be peeved off about land being stolen is the SAN. The rest of the people also traveled here, might have been a couple of years before the white man, but they still killed for that land.
Then we came and actually tried at one stage to buy the land in a fair deal form the Zulus, and they slaughter the people that wanted to buy the land.

and how did I make their lives hell. WTF did I do. nothing, so why must I have a hard time for the **** my forefathers did. What we the whites did do was make South-Africa the most civilized and advanced country in Africa. Now dont go and make such statments agian before thinking it through .. ok

Good for you. But what I'm saying to Doob is that he can't pull that we came to save you and make your life better card. And at no point did I blame you for rape and plunder. Lots of us on this forum are post-apartheid babies and thus cannot be blamed for the sins of the previous generations.

Oh, but when you say made SA the most civilized country in Africa you say we.

[1rr3t4t3d]

I don't have time to go around blaming people for this and that though. All the sane people in SA (asian, coloured, black and white) should either shut up or do something.

i do however totally agree with that statement. It is desturbing however to hear the amount of "sain" people that just are not interested in voting .. pity ..

[freeboy]

I don't have time to go around blaming people for this and that though. All the sane people in SA (asian, coloured, black and white) should either shut up or do something.

i do however totally agree with that statement. It is desturbing however to hear the amount of "sain" people that just are not interested in voting .. pity ..

Hmm... I was supposed to go to Japan next year but I've put it off till 2010 so I'll go through the effort of voting (and not for Zuma).

[Tribble]

You should hear the partying still outside my office window.... i'm not sure if we will be able to get home...

I would stay there till it quietens down. Rather safe than sorry.

[freeboy]

Yep, rather stay.

[jee]

nope - i will not allow something like this to rule my life... getting home was... chaotic... but i made it!

[StarBound]

Did you have to wash blood off you car? And how many gallons?

[jee]

nah, its drizzling up my alley - so the car is clean.

Actually, what I have come away with is the absolute joy of the people.

[Hex_Rated]

freeboy - I agree with a lot of what you say except the stolen land part. Every single "country" revolves around stolen land from one nationality to another since the beginning of time, Zulus stole from one nationality who stole from another nationality, doesn't make it right; in fact they only got here 1,000 years ago we got here 350+ years ago, what difference does it make, we're both here wrongly? The khoi san were the only people here that had been here for 20,000+ year. Since the beginning of time. This is how it worked in those days. Unfortunately the oppression of certain races or people was practised for a long time (and is still practised either covertly or openly in certain countries). It is dying out and we're becoming less destructive.

I've seen the parts of the country that have not benefited AT ALL from white rule, I would not like to live under those conditions (camps around Rustenberg). They are terrible. But the whites planned and had our infrastructure built by you guys. If it was not for our part, Africa would still be in ruins. Even more compared to how it is now. Zimbabwe was the breadbin of Africa, not they can't even feed themselves because of people voting for corrupt rulers, MUCH more OPENLY corrupt than leaders of first world countries who are also up to ***** sometimes but they don't steal on the same scale and openly get criminals to do their dirty work

We all know Zuma is guilty. The legal system doesn't work, he will walk, especially now he is funded by our tax and can get the best legal team available. We're paying for this.

I think that everyone who passes the privilege of citizenship should be able to vote. You would pass, hopefully myself as well. I'm too much of a dreamer, that type of system will never come in to action.

I hope IFP and DA merge. Then we'd be able to choose between: "A giant douche or a turd sandwich". Watch South Park episode : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche_and_Turd if you don't know what I'm talking about.

[Prime]

Unfortunately the outcome of This Zuma thing is that he is now going to milk it for all its worth. and His mob will think that they have power which will further decrease the already lowered IQ (We all know that the average IQ of a mob is equal to the intelligence of its dumbest member divided by the number of people ) of the mob. And now they will have more reason to behave like iditos and trash and rape and pillage, cos thats what mobs typically do.

[Zana]

Zuma hits the news again... depressing... lets all watch south africa free wheelie down the slide...

[ryanrich]

so you are not seeing just how farked we are ?? sheesh, Look around ou and open your eyes

Alright, "ou"...

I'm curious to know, how many of you guys who constantly say how crap our country is have lived overseas, and if so where?

rusty: So true, and all in the same month as the 9/11 anniversary as well as the LHC test run! Coincidence? I think not!!! I meant yet here we all are still, or did you miss that?

[ryanrich]

Ai ai ai, I get what you guys are saying though, every time I see these dancing freaks on TV holding wooden AK47's and such, worrying stuff...

[Ark]

freeboy - I agree with a lot of what you say except the stolen land part. Every single "country" revolves around stolen land from one nationality to another since the beginning of time, Zulus stole from one nationality who stole from another nationality, doesn't make it right; in fact they only got here 1,000 years ago we got here 350+ years ago, what difference does it make, we're both here wrongly? The khoi san were the only people here that had been here for 20,000+ year. Since the beginning of time. This is how it worked in those days. Unfortunately the oppression of certain races or people was practised for a long time (and is still practised either covertly or openly in certain countries). It is dying out and we're becoming less destructive.

If I remember history correctly, after the great trek the boers used to obtain land peacefully by signing treaties with the chief of whichever tribe the requested land from, which usually resulted in black and white people getting drunk together, partying in celebration of the peace agreement between the two races. Dingaan was the fool who started the ***** when he betrayed the over-trusting boers, by leading them into a trap and brutally killing them after successful negotiations and merry-making.

--my 2 cents on the stolen land bit

[freeboy]

freeboy - I agree with a lot of what you say except the stolen land part. Every single "country" revolves around stolen land from one nationality to another since the beginning of time, Zulus stole from one nationality who stole from another nationality, doesn't make it right; in fact they only got here 1,000 years ago we got here 350+ years ago, what difference does it make, we're both here wrongly? The khoi san were the only people here that had been here for 20,000+ year. Since the beginning of time. This is how it worked in those days. Unfortunately the oppression of certain races or people was practised for a long time (and is still practised either covertly or openly in certain countries). It is dying out and we're becoming less destructive.

I've seen the parts of the country that have not benefited AT ALL from white rule, I would not like to live under those conditions (camps around Rustenberg). They are terrible. But the whites planned and had our infrastructure built by you guys. If it was not for our part, Africa would still be in ruins. Even more compared to how it is now. Zimbabwe was the breadbin of Africa, not they can't even feed themselves because of people voting for corrupt rulers, MUCH more OPENLY corrupt than leaders of first world countries who are also up to **** sometimes but they don't steal on the same scale and openly get criminals to do their dirty work.

I hear you man. We can all agree that human beings are petty, selfish, murderous, cheating and stealing dirtbags. Add any other vices you wish to that list.

[rustypup]

Add any other vices you wish to that list.

:shifty look:

vista use and brand addiction....

[1rr3t4t3d]

Add any other vices you wish to that list.

:shifty look:

vista use and brand addiction....

LOL !!!

[RuadRauFlessa]

nope - i will not allow something like this to rule my life... getting home was... chaotic... but i made it!

I am glad to see you made it G

[Hex_Rated]

I hear you man. We can all agree that human beings are petty, selfish, murderous, cheating and stealing dirtbags. Add any other vices you wish to that list.

Hopefully we will get better with time. Carl Sagan said the more advanced a species is the more peaceful it will be. He was a wise man, let's hope he's correct and we become more advanced instead of going backwards.

[Hman]

The more advanced we get, we find more ways of killing another.

[Zana]

The more advanced we get, we find more ways of killing another.

You are very tue and agree..