Love?

[jee]

Love without nurturing and compassion is not love. Those are characteristics that encapsulate love. The feeling without those are plain being used to someone.

[Tribble]

I agree 100%.

[BluePsyche]

but love is like 90 % abstract feeling isn't it

[D3PART3D]

but love is like 90 % abstract feeling isn't it

Explain?

[BluePsyche]

There's the pragmatic side where you have to work at it to keep it properly alive and then there are all the mushy feelings and sensations which are associated with it, which are the "abstract" I reffered to.

[Tribble]

I hear it is mainly chemical - your body releases them and we react to them. That is why you cannot choose who you fall for - there is some kind of a chemical reaction.

[BluePsyche]

I hear it is mainly chemical - your body releases them and we react to them. That is why you cannot choose who you fall for - there is some kind of a chemical reaction.

We are still base creatures...

[Monty]

I hear it is mainly chemical - your body releases them and we react to them. That is why you cannot choose who you fall for - there is some kind of a chemical reaction.

It is a chemical thing, with a link to genetics (you 'fall' for a type that is appealing)

[BluePsyche]

So very base, we are slaves then

[D3PART3D]

I hear it is mainly chemical - your body releases them and we react to them. That is why you cannot choose who you fall for - there is some kind of a chemical reaction.

Actually... no. The emotion is definitely caused by a chemical yes (or so I hear ) but that chemical is only released in response to what happens in your mind.

Thought emotions follow.

Usually what happens is that you notice a particular characteristic in a person that you like (they read Tolkein, or something.) and your subconcious mind, to save the energy of actually finding out who the other person really is, will try and make reasonable predictions instead, and go with that idea. But all it has to work with is the few cool aspects you were focusing on, so the abstract it creates in your mind is purely positive and overly embellished, your brain can only predict good things because you've only fed it good information.

In reaction to this false concept of a certain person you feel good emotions because they represent objective values.

Brain recognises that they are a member of the opposite sex, and believes that they have 1337 dna (because of the concept in your mind) and releases the chemicals.

I have tons of scientific evidence to back this up, but I'd have to go through my textbooks for all the terminology, so only ask if you really really ant to know. And note, I'm not saying that this is the only way people fall in love.

[D3PART3D]

So very base, we are slaves then

Slaves to whom? Even if who we fell in love with is in the control of the chemicals our bodies release, do you leave those chemicals outside your definition of the self? Are they not part of you?

I hear it is mainly chemical - your body releases them and we react to them. That is why you cannot choose who you fall for - there is some kind of a chemical reaction.

It is a chemical thing, with a link to genetics (you 'fall' for a type that is appealing)

QFT - but what you find appealing is quite largely determined by your psychology.

[Monty]

I hear it is mainly chemical - your body releases them and we react to them. That is why you cannot choose who you fall for - there is some kind of a chemical reaction.

It is a chemical thing, with a link to genetics (you 'fall' for a type that is appealing)

QFT - but what you find appealing is quite largely determined by your psychology.

WHich I'll argue till my dying breath is partly genetic

[D3PART3D]

WHich I'll argue till my dying breath is partly genetic

Yes you're 100% correct. A guy's dna says look for boobs, hips, physical health etc., but it has its limits, I mean, you're not attracted to every single girl who meets that criteria. Unless you're jamin.

[BluePsyche]

But how much of your Psychology is really your own?

[Monty]

But how much of your Psychology is really your own?

All of it. The question is how much of it do you control

[D3PART3D]

But how much of your Psychology is really your own?

That's not in the realm of science anymore but rather of philosophy, because before there can be ownership there must be a self... and science cannot define "self".

And I haven't truly found the answer to that yet, so your guess is as good as mine Time for some pondering tea

[D3PART3D]

But how much of your Psychology is really your own?

All of it. The question is how much of it do you control

Well, that's a blunt answer, and makes perfect sense. Monty wins!

[BluePsyche]

What am I doing here anyway? *leaves thread*

[D3PART3D]

What am I doing here anyway? *leaves thread*

Noooooooo! Stay, the only thing that keeps me in this girly thread is the satifaction of the masculine competition instinct, i.e. being corect-er than you.

[BluePsyche]

You know I'm deficient in those matters and wish to make me your play thing

[Monty]

You know I'm deficient in those matters and wish to make me your play thing

Stay, argue and learn.

[Screeper]

I'm very low this weekend, been about 7 weeks now and nothing has even remotely eased *sigh*

Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.

You can close your eyes to things you don’t want to see, but you can’t close your heart to things you don’t want to feel.

When you said forever, you meant a few months.
When I said forever, I meant every day until I died.

[Monty]

You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, but she is beautiful because you love her.

Screeper, talk about it to someone you trust, as talking lets you get what weighs you down off your chest. And don't expect it to just disappear one day, its much like the healing of a physical injury or ailment, it takes time.

[Koko_Lion]

Screeper, talk about it to someone you trust, as talking lets you get what weighs you down off your chest. And don't expect it to just disappear one day, its much like the healing of a physical injury or ailment, it takes time.

Or watch a couple episodes of Fresh Prince of Bel Air, works for me

Jus kidding

[Tribble]

Screeper, Monty is right. You need to talk to someone and then go out on the town with some single friends. You need to see you can still have fun.