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It's a good exercise in dealing with change people so deal

I dealt with change the whole morning- 1st through 6th gear, up and down, all the way to Cullinan and back

I find it takes a second or so for me to filter out non-relevant text, such as sigs, topic subjects and dates. It makes the reading a tad more lengthy, but it's no train smash.

actually you see stuff you haven't noticed for a while and sometimes it is rather interesting

If I may be as bold as to request that the signature size rule also get a change? I can understand giant sigs such as all of yours and a large layout. On a narrow one it really looks bad.

It also defeats the point to have a sig bigger than your post.

Okay, so it seems I've underestimated the power of peripheral vision. I'm now perfectly fine with the avatars on the right. No more Manga.

Looks good, thanks Ron!

OK, let me reply to all the comments here:

GreyWolf wrote:I have likes and dislikes, but even the things I do not like I can see the logic behind, except for the narrow layout. Was this by choice or is it something that's part of the back end and cannot be changed?

If you compare the main PCF website with the forums, you'll see why this was done.

D3PART3D wrote:Complaint: We read from left to right. Before I start reading, I look at avatars to know who's voice I should be hearing in my head. Now, I have to first look right before I start to read, and it annoys me.

This was a close call - however, we found that having the avatars on the right placed more emphasis on the post content rather than the poster, and since we actually ended up liking that, it stayed.

Bladerunner wrote:Is there no phpbbNuke mod for phpBB3? I loved that sidebar with the latest posts.

phpNuke has the same amount of security holes as a sieve. I have absolutely no regrets ditching it.

Siemens wrote:If I may be as bold as to request that the signature size rule also get a change? I can understand giant sigs such as all of yours and a large layout. On a narrow one it really looks bad.

It also defeats the point to have a sig bigger than your post.

Well, we do have sig size rules which, with a fixed layout, is now easier for us to get right.

ryanrich wrote:Looks good, thanks Ron!

Thanks.

My Only crits are:

1) logging onto the forum for the first time since the change, I thought the style sheet was broken. It still looks very PHP3 ish at first glance.

2) Any chance members can have an option to change the width in the UCP, please?

I think its great, a bit of a fresh look. forums were getting a bit "much of the same", so logging in today was a welcome surprise.

Emoticons look a bit dated though. aren't there better looking ones available ?

Prime wrote:Any chance members can have an option to change the width in the UCP, please?

The template engine isn't that advanced - sorry. (It would be really nice to have though - if enough people are interested, I can log a feature request for future versions, but this would be a major feature that would take a while to be implemented, if at all.)

Mclaren wrote:Emoticons look a bit dated though. aren't there better looking ones available ?

There have been newer ones out in the wild for some time now. I just haven't bothered about them, as no-one's complained about them... well, until now.

So now you have two new things to think about

Ron2K wrote:There have been newer ones out in the wild for some time now. I just haven't bothered about them, as no-one's complained about them... well, until now.

Please just not larger emoticons that are going to throw all the posts out of whack. And not those horrible, default, rugby ball shaped things.

I actually like the rugby ball shaped things - tell you what, I'll stick a poll up this evening so that everyone can decide.

Perfect

At least make the sigs a bit less in the height. All of our sigs look bad.

or better yet, remove the sigs.

Siemens wrote:At least make the sigs a bit less in the height. All of our sigs look bad.

Wait, wut? I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean the space for your sigs? Not the actual sig images?

Siemens wrote:or better yet, remove the sigs.

You can turn sigs off in the UCP if that tickles your pickle.

Ron2K wrote:

Siemens wrote:or better yet, remove the sigs.

You can turn sigs off in the UCP if that tickles your pickle.

Ron, I suspect he's referring to the fact that the line for sigs starts quite high up. If you have a single line post, then the poster information on the right can potentially be bigger than your actual post. So he's asking that it somehow be set that the dividing line between post and sig start a bit lower.

Not sure that that's going to happen though.

I don't like the change, the previous look and feel was better.
Oh well.. website gestapo will remain website gestapo.
Opinion.

Stuart wrote:Ron, I suspect he's referring to the fact that the line for sigs starts quite high up. If you have a single line post, then the poster information on the right can potentially be bigger than your actual post. So he's asking that it somehow be set that the dividing line between post and sig start a bit lower.

Ah, right: he's asking for me to set a min-height. Will fiddle with the CSS then and see what I can do.

Sojourn wrote:Oh well.. website gestapo will remain website gestapo.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Ron2K wrote:Ah, right: he's asking for me to set a min-height.

Yes, that's what I just said.

Isn't that what I just said.

*looks around desperately for support*

That is what he just said - but I think what Siemens meant was that you make the rules for sigs smaller - more in line with his size. He was perhaps complaining about sig height and not allocated space in the post box

Well we should have a vote on the theme...because I hate it, I read from left to right and this Arabic theme is not normal, unless of course you are Arabic.....or give members the option to choose which theme to use....

You can choose what theme to use, go into your preferences and choose the Fluid Blue - thats what I did.