Ike I have no intention to start a fight with you but I wonder where you get all your information from. I highly coubt 30 million people all leave in fear of being hunted down and thrown into jail.
Have you been to China? Do you know how hard it is to find a job there? Well let me tell you it is pretty damn hard, and most people leave the country in order to find a better job, but frankly life aint that good else where either. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. You can only start a new life with money, and that is something not many people have...
I read that article, and possibly it is true, but that was 2 years ago. I personally don't like reading News articles and usually they are bias, read the last 5 lines of the article...
da_ripper wrote:don't take it personally. i have nothing against chinese people. just the goverment.
edit my friends happen to be Christian and i worry for their safety in china. China shoots Christians
You don't live in China, so don't pretend to know it!
Sure the government of China might not be one of the most humanitarian governments around... but speak to people who come from China. Many will say their government does the right thing.
If Chinese people are happy with the way things work, then stop complaining for them!
LOL, That is why 30 milion chinese have left the country? They fled to places like sudan,nigeria,marroco,South-america,brazil,hiati,DRC etc...
I wonder how many chinese have emigrated since china became a communist state?
Really? Fled?
Many leave because of the job situation. If you don't understand that, keep quiet.
Of all the chinese I have met here (many) most of them come here to study because its hard to get into a top university there, and when they get their degree they will return to china and work there. If its such an evil place, why return?
The people who stay here stay because even with their degree they won't get a good job in china...
Try competing with 1.3 billion people...
EDIT: YOu posted 1 second before me
EDIT2: BBC is one of the most biased crap on earth.
da_ripper wrote:don't take it personally. i have nothing against chinese people. just the goverment.
edit my friends happen to be Christian and i worry for their safety in china. China shoots Christians
You don't live in China, so don't pretend to know it!
Sure the government of China might not be one of the most humanitarian governments around... but speak to people who come from China. Many will say their government does the right thing.
If Chinese people are happy with the way things work, then stop complaining for them!
LOL, That is why 30 milion chinese have left the country? They fled to places like sudan,nigeria,marroco,South-america,brazil,hiati,DRC etc...
I wonder how many chinese have emigrated since china became a communist state?
Really? Fled?
Many leave because of the job situation. If you don't understand that, keep quiet.
Of all the chinese I have met here (many) most of them come here to study because its hard to get into a top university there, and when they get their degree they will return to china and work there. If its such an evil place, why return?
The people who stay here stay because even with their degree they won't get a good job in china...
Try competing with 1.3 billion people...
EDIT: YOu posted 1 second before me
you make a good point, But very few chinese return... I personally don't like communism, but if you do, by all means go live there
someidiotsa wrote:Ike I have no intention to start a fight with you but I wonder where you get all your information from. I highly coubt 30 million people all leave in fear of being hunted down and thrown into jail.
Have you been to China? Do you know how hard it is to find a job there? Well let me tell you it is pretty damn hard, and most people leave the country in order to find a better job, but frankly life aint that good else where either. The grass isn't always greener on the other side. You can only start a new life with money, and that is something not many people have...
I read that article, and possibly it is true, but that was 2 years ago. I personally don't like reading News articles and usually they are bias, read the last 5 lines of the article...
9% official registered unemployment in urban areas in 2004; substantial unemployment and underemployment in rural areas; an official Chinese journal estimated overall unemployment (including rural areas) for 2003 at 20% (2005 est.)
da_ripper wrote:don't take it personally. i have nothing against chinese people. just the goverment.
edit my friends happen to be Christian and i worry for their safety in china. China shoots Christians
You don't live in China, so don't pretend to know it!
Sure the government of China might not be one of the most humanitarian governments around... but speak to people who come from China. Many will say their government does the right thing.
If Chinese people are happy with the way things work, then stop complaining for them!
LOL, That is why 30 milion chinese have left the country? They fled to places like sudan,nigeria,marroco,South-america,brazil,hiati,DRC etc...
I wonder how many chinese have emigrated since china became a communist state?
Really? Fled?
Many leave because of the job situation. If you don't understand that, keep quiet.
Of all the chinese I have met here (many) most of them come here to study because its hard to get into a top university there, and when they get their degree they will return to china and work there. If its such an evil place, why return?
The people who stay here stay because even with their degree they won't get a good job in china...
Try competing with 1.3 billion people...
EDIT: YOu posted 1 second before me
you make a good point, But very few chinese return... I personally don't like communism, but if you do, by all means go live there
It seems white people with a good degree who can speak english can find very good jobs in china.
You know that still has nothing to do with the reasons of why they left...
And you have forgotten that there are over 1 billion people living in china, you enemployment rate will explode compared to our South African one...
Carry on writing what you want, I will reply tomorrow, please please dont refer to damn articles, Im sick and tired of reading from those damn sites...
Why dont you people read up on 21st century China...
Their economy is growing so fast it is scaring the crap out of the West.
Wages, quality of life, personal freedom and many other things have increased for your average Chinese citizen.
I think all-in-all China's government is not doing that bad.
Would you care to provide some evidence to substantiate that claim? I find it highly unlikely that the Chinese are trying to exterminate all Christians.
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If you have to quote someone, at least do it correctly.
Enough now Ike and parties... andy more flaming and i will lock this thread.
"Integrity" and "integer" both contain a Latin root meaning "whole; complete." The root sense, then, is that people may be said to be acting with integrity when their beliefs, words, and actions have a sense of unity or wholeness.
SomeSweetie, my comments are not for you In fact, I think you are one of the few here than can make a decent input due to your first hand knowledge. Great debate is needed, stupid comments.. well they will be deleted :p
"Integrity" and "integer" both contain a Latin root meaning "whole; complete." The root sense, then, is that people may be said to be acting with integrity when their beliefs, words, and actions have a sense of unity or wholeness.
Would you care to provide some evidence to substantiate that claim? I find it highly unlikely that the Chinese are trying to exterminate all Christians.
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If you have to quote someone, at least do it correctly.
Enough now Ike and parties... andy more flaming and i will lock this thread.
I wasn't flaming, do you now about any of the articles about animal abuse and human rights abuse in china
@ jamin: Yeah, they are doing great really... But the U.S is partially responsible. But the democrats will sort that out shortly
@ zerubabel: the fluffy thing was a joke, Your logic sucks! G'nite
Yes Ike, i have collected a number of articles on human rights and abuse in China - not only online, and some first hand reports from friends that worked there. But as usual, your jokes are totally sick.
"Integrity" and "integer" both contain a Latin root meaning "whole; complete." The root sense, then, is that people may be said to be acting with integrity when their beliefs, words, and actions have a sense of unity or wholeness.
Ike wrote:@ jamin: Yeah, they are doing great really... But the U.S is partially responsible. But the democrats will sort that out shortly
I disagree.
China'a massive economic growth means that there is alot of money to be made there. And when did a capitolist country ever let a few human right violations get in the way of serious money making
jee wrote:Yes Ike, i have collected a number of articles on human rights and abuse in China - not only online, and some first hand reports from friends that worked there. But as usual, your jokes are totally sick.
Actually, Most of my jokes are just for the bright side of things, I have 2 cats and 2 dogs... But these forums aren't the right place the be actively campaigning against animal abuse. <hence the PC format tag>
p.s> You should hear the jokes over animal abuse was broadcast around night of LOL in the US, That was sick...
Ike wrote:@ jamin: Yeah, they are doing great really... But the U.S is partially responsible. But the democrats will sort that out shortly
I disagree.
China'a massive economic growth means that there is alot of money to be made there. And when did a capitolist country ever let a few human right violations get in the way of serious money making
Since the capitalist county is importing tons of stuff from that place, Economically i think if china wasn't a communist state it would have been a super power today
Ike wrote:Since the capitalist county is importing tons of stuff from that place, Economically i think if china wasn't a communist state it would have been a super power today
Who says China isn't a superpower
Which country in Asia could go head-to-head with China and win
Not just in a military conflict, but in terms of economic power as well.
Most European countries would have a hard time.
China could show up tomorrow in almost any country on earth and say "Guess what, we're in charge now!"
If the country being invaded wasnt part of the NATO alliance, they might just get away with it
the fluffy thing was a joke, Your logic sucks! G'nite 
