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Prime wrote:

Rayne wrote:Correction, Microsoft will offer support for XP until 2014. Production of OEM and retail copies however, ends June 30'th 2008.

So best take care of your discs. Or buy now if your planning to, and are lucky enough to find any, that is.

From my exercise, sourcing a new Pc-well the parts anyway, suppliers will cease to sell XP from Jan 2009. This might just be DSP. and what of the EEE PC and those. wasn't vista's life going to be extended because of that?

Don't you mean XP's life? Vista's life should be shortened, not extended, they'd be doing the world a HUGE favour

marduke wrote:

Prime wrote:

Rayne wrote:Correction, Microsoft will offer support for XP until 2014. Production of OEM and retail copies however, ends June 30'th 2008.

So best take care of your discs. Or buy now if your planning to, and are lucky enough to find any, that is.

From my exercise, sourcing a new Pc-well the parts anyway, suppliers will cease to sell XP from Jan 2009. This might just be DSP. and what of the EEE PC and those. wasn't vista's life going to be extended because of that?

Don't you mean XP's life? Vista's life should be shortened, not extended, they'd be doing the world a HUGE favour

sorry, meant XP

I installed SP3 on my friend's laptop today, and now any kind of internet has ceased to work!
We have a wireless network and everyone else (that makes 2 other people) can access the internet just fine.
Oh and she can still acces the network, internet just doesn't want to connect.

Have tried Opera, IE7 and latest Firefox. Nothing works.
It's an Acer Aspire 3623 series (jip, very crappy. Celeron, ugh...)

Think it's the same problem SykomantiS had way earlier in the year.

Microsoft's web site is useless and offered no help and no-one in the forums there had any answers either.
Any ideas? Anyone? Please, before i throw the damn thing off the roof and burn every microsoft product in sight...

Jaywalker86 wrote:I installed SP3 on my friend's laptop today, and now any kind of internet has ceased to work!
We have a wireless network and everyone else (that makes 2 other people) can access the internet just fine.
Oh and she can still acces the network, internet just doesn't want to connect.

Have tried Opera, IE7 and latest Firefox. Nothing works.
It's an Acer Aspire 3623 series (jip, very crappy. Celeron, ugh...)

Think it's the same problem SykomantiS had way earlier in the year.

Microsoft's web site is useless and offered no help and no-one in the forums there had any answers either.
Any ideas? Anyone? Please, before i throw the damn thing off the roof and burn every microsoft product in sight...

Have you checked the default gateway?

Nope, didn't check it, but all PC's on the network are set to "automatically assign" an IP adress (if that's what your referring to).

Have installed newest drivers from the acer website, but those drivers are from 2004 so im sure it wouldn't have solved any problem anyway
The laptop has a Broadcom wireless network adapter and the Broadcom website is probably the most useless thing ever Has no drivers for the specific adapter anywhere on the site.

Read somehwere that some people solved the problem by updating the network adapter's firmware, but i can't find anything for the card on the manufacturer's website.

Very frustrated...

Jaywalker86 wrote:Nope, didn't check it, but all PC's on the network are set to "automatically assign" an IP adress (if that's what your referring to).

Have installed newest drivers from the acer website, but those drivers are from 2004 so im sure it wouldn't have solved any problem anyway
The laptop has a Broadcom wireless network adapter and the Broadcom website is probably the most useless thing ever Has no drivers for the specific adapter anywhere on the site.

Read somehwere that some people solved the problem by updating the network adapter's firmware, but i can't find anything for the card on the manufacturer's website.

Very frustrated...

All PCs are to automatically assign? So then only this single PC is giving probs?

Ya i was wanting to check out blue screen and how to solve them, went to Microsoft site, lol there a guy posted a few months back asking them and no reply, i aid in there

I mean we pay so much for there software, and soon as we have a problem there no one to help, you get two emails to them free then the rest you have to pay for that is absurd.

I am getting really irritated with them, i mean i believe xp and vista still better than mac and linux, but i believe later on linux will start to take over the market

Vlad wrote:...but i believe later on linux will start to take over the market

No DirectX...

I've used Linux a few times and have always returned to Windows. Linux is taking over the business and server market though.

Yip, only this one PC (the only one that has SP3 installed) is giving problems. And ther'es NO reason (even if it is a celeron) why it shouldn't work...

Thanks for trying man. Im so gatvol of PC's after this weekend

Bladerunner wrote: No DirectX...

Like Bladerunner said, some bright Russian spark must waste a couple of years of his life and figure out how to make DirectX work in linux, then only will Windows be threatened.

Jaywalker86 wrote:figure out how to make DirectX work in linux

err... no. DX is microsoft proprietary, hence the "doesn't run on linux" given that the philosophy behind linux is OSS...

the hardware manufacturers need to expose their product by scrubbing the interface approach they've allowed themselves to get locked into ala mickeysoft...

by providing a generic interface into the instruction sets, (nvidia looks to be doing just that in its next gen GPUs... ), we will see games running on *nix boxes - and, (given the malloc speed variance between the two platforms), at framerates far outstripping anything windows can currently push...

as to your issue: short and sweet, rollback to SP2... SP3 doesn't offer all that much and is known for scribbling network access...

Jaywalker86 wrote:Yip, only this one PC (the only one that has SP3 installed) is giving problems. And ther'es NO reason (even if it is a celeron) why it shouldn't work...

Thanks for trying man. Im so gatvol of PC's after this weekend

Rusty is probably right. Rolling back to SP2 should fix it then.

Sounds to me like you've tried everything else anyway.

Will roll back this coming weekend, don't have time this week.
Thx Rusty and Bladerunner!

RustyPup: err... no. DX is microsoft proprietary, hence the "doesn't run on linux" given that the philosophy behind linux is OSS...

DOH! Sorry, didn't really think about that one before i wrote my earlier comment. Just read the article in PCFormat on OpenGL and DirectX this afternoon. Quite informative...
Im taking it that if games were to run on Linux, they'd use OpenGL, right?
Right! Lesson learned...

Jaywalker86 wrote:they'd use OpenGL, right?

i hope not... IIRC, while the license is GPL, microsoft owns the patent....

Really!! I missed that bit of info... think i should go read up some more...
Thx Rusty

Looks as if 'all of our base are belong to Microsoft'!
MS owns too many things...

HEY.I have a prob.When i try to install service pack 3 it gives me this error."the core system file(kernel file used to start this computer is not a windows file".Does this have something to do with my dual boot config.My other os is vista.
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