Watercooling Setups

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:14

proaTt wrote:i got the thermaltake se bigwater kit,what i like about it theres lots of extras you can buy,like a second radiator and those kinda stuff,my system is running at 35 degrees now,its a 1800 mhz amd 64 bit running at 2000mhz,not to bad though,

Is it a 939 3000+ ?

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:16

wizardofid wrote:
WiKiD wrote:what?? So should I buy a bottle of water?
A lot less hassle But try brandy it MIGHT work....??

A bottle of what?? I don't wanna spend a crap load of money on water.

wizardofid · Post by **wizardofid** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:21

WiKiD wrote:
wizardofid wrote:
WiKiD wrote:what?? So should I buy a bottle of water?
A lot less hassle But try brandy it MIGHT work....??
A bottle of what?? I don't wanna spend a crap load of money on water.

There is special water you can buy that is treated with ani-algea you will notice it by color green most of the times those are the ones you don't have to do any thing else with expect plug n' play....

Sorry can't remember the name.

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:23

Yeah, but that stuff costs a fortune, seriously. It's worth it though.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:23

How much did it cost?

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:27

I'm not sure, but it's hella expensive. Ask mrbean, he probably knows.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:28

He doesn't reply to my pm's!

wizardofid · Post by **wizardofid** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:29

around R180.00 R250.00 depends on the brandname

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:32

Just give him some time, it IS christmas after all!

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:34

Man, that's expensive.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:35

I pm'd him a week ago...

I can't pay so much for freaking water! The F#*#*#*# stuff is free to everyone!

Coolant

The most commonly used liquid in watercooling systems is a mixture of 90% distilled water and 10% antifreeze. Premixed solutions and nonconductive solutions are also available, but these tend (that is, all those in existence today) to be worse than 90/10 water/antifreeze mix at cooling, while costing several times more. The nonconductive solutions offer added security, although most consider it unnecessary.

Redline Water Wetter was in favour for a while, but then reports of it leaving long white strands of scum in water cooling systems surfaced, and it generally went out of use. This stuff is not recommended any more - avoid it if you can.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 25 Dec 2005, 22:48

More watercooling info
http://www.overclocking.co.za/forums/vi ... a2b59ae98a

Good ol' MrBean Says

MrBean wrote:Use water, distilled which you buy from Game/Macro or similar, and then add around 15% antifreeze to it. Yip, quite a high ratio, but I found 10-15% quite good to avoid algae growth, and change out the water every 5-6 months or so. Add 1 drop Sunlight Dishwash liquid to lower the water surface tension, and enhance it's ability to soak up heat. Adding antifreeze makes the water less efficient, so to speak, so I try and correct with a little sunlight liquid. Helps a little.

As an alternative, you could get some FluidXP from Arthur over at http://www.synapsys.co.za , it is a non-conductive fluid with cooling properties similar to water - not as good distilled water, but probably in the same league as water/10%-antifreeze mixture.

Let me know what you decide eventually - on a side note, I have never used special mixtures from any supplier, and I am one of the few guys never to have had any issues with watercooling and bugs

So, as I said, the best would be fluidxp, or then maybe my mixture.

MrBean · Post by **MrBean** » 28 Dec 2005, 20:25

Korrek. Follow the advice in above post, and you will be fine.

I have been away to Kimberley, without Internet for more than a week, so I was unavailable.

I would go for Antarctica cpu block, Coolwave Rad (2x 120mm), use 10mm od tubing, good enough for your plan......that way you can fit it easily, it doesn't kink as quick as 12mm tyubing etc.

Get a good pump, maybe Eheim 1250, or 12V HTTP pump.

Other than that, go to Game, buy distilled water, and follow my mixture. Will cost you around R20-/L for the mixture.

Water by itself will be about R5- per 750ml.

Hope this helps you out.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 28 Dec 2005, 20:38

MrBean wrote:Korrek. Follow the advice in above post, and you will be fine.

I have been away to Kimberley, without Internet for more than a week, so I was unavailable.

I would go for Antarctica cpu block, Coolwave Rad (2x 120mm), use 10mm od tubing, good enough for your plan......that way you can fit it easily, it doesn't kink as quick as 12mm tyubing etc.

Get a good pump, maybe Eheim 1250, or 12V HTTP pump.

Other than that, go to Game, buy distilled water, and follow my mixture. Will cost you around R20-/L for the mixture.

Water by itself will be about R5- per 750ml.

Hope this helps you out.

Thanks for the reply MrBean. I am going for the antarctica cooler, just oneq though. What is the diffs between this one, CPU Cooler Antarctica DYO - CPU01/A 10mm and
This one, CPU Cooler Antarctica CPU01/A 10mm (this one is more expensive)

Then i'll go for the Coolwave Rad (2x 120mm)

Is 10mm the same as 3/8"?

Then i'm getting a maze 4 gpu cooler

Is this Reservoir OK? CoolWave Acrylic Reservoir - 200ml from synapsys.

And the pump, how much is that pump gonna chase me out of my pocket? I see it is nearly a grand at synapsys! That is too expensive for me! What about some cheaper pumps?

Thanks for all the input

DAE_JA_VOO · Post by **DAE_JA_VOO** » 28 Dec 2005, 20:40

@mrbean:

You said he should buy a 12V HTTP pump. Who makes those and where can we buy them?

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 28 Dec 2005, 20:48

Its by Innovatek, Eheim HPPS Pump 12V R969

And where can I get antifreeze??

How bout this pump?

Pump DYO - Hydor L20/220V w 2x10mm fittings by Asetek from Synapsys

Here is a pic of an Asetek setup,

I will be getting that CPU waterblock, right?

And then I guess that pump is the Hydor i mentioned above. It looks to me like it has a built in relay switch.

MrBean · Post by **MrBean** » 28 Dec 2005, 20:51

Okay, 1st things 1st.

10mm = OD (outside dia)
3/8" = ID (inside dia)

Metric pipes always measures OD.

Imperial pipes always measures ID. Thus, 3/8" is in actual fact around 9.7mm ID

a Std 10mm OD pipe will give around 8mm id, if 1mm wallthickness is observed.

Antarctica DYO = Do Your Own. Means the waterblock is not assembled, but it is very easy to do, you will need an allen key. Nothing else. Saves you a bit of money on the assembled block.

I have 2 Maze4's, they are very neat. While you at it, get yourself some 3/8" Tygon Tubing from DD, and then a DD Laing D5 pump. Get the rad local, Coolwave from Arthur, they perform great.

You can get 4 extra 3/8" male pipe fittings, with 1/4" BSP thread from DD, brass or nylon, for the rad and reservoir.

Pump will come with 1/2" fittings, but Tygon will stretch and fit easily over these.

So, to summarize: Laing DD5 Pump, Tygon tubing, Maze4 (3/8") gpu block and 4 extra fittings for rad from Dangerden.

Coolwave 2x 120mm rad, Antarctica DYO block from Arthur.

Reservoir - up to you, I will get the nice bayres from Dangerden as well!

@ Dae-ja-voo: HTTP 12V is an Eheim pump, manufactured specifically for Innovatek by Eheim. Designed for watercooling systems, but don't put to much in the way of waterblocks in the loop - GPU and CPU is enough, and something like a BIX Rad, which offers low restriction.

Otherwise, get DD5 as advised to Wikid.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:03

OK

CPU: CPU Cooler Antarctica DYO - CPU01/A 10mm from Synapsys

RAD: Coolwave dual 120mm from Synapsys

GPU: Maze 4 from Dangerden

Res: Will see? Were you talking about this? http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.p ... =27&page=1

Tubing: 3/8" Tygon Tubing?? Is it really worth it or cant I rather get some tubing from a local hardware store? How much feet do I need?

Pump: Is that pump worth it? It costs nearly R500 without shipping and tax.

Oh PS: How does this whole import tax thing work? Cant you perhaps bring it in for me? Or know of someone that can bring it in?

MrBean · Post by **MrBean** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:10

Get the Tygon, it is worth it. 6ft is close to around 2m, will be enough.

Get the pump. R500- for that quality is cheap. Let your dad pay via his credit card, you will pay vat onj it when it arrives, but no import duties. Let DD specify it is computer spares for personal use.

Should take around 10-14 days, quite fast with economy shipping. Shipping would be close to US $18- or around there.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:14

MrBean wrote: Should take around 10-14 days, quite fast with economy shipping. Shipping would be close to US $18- or around there.

Well, I wanted to order all my stuff from there and they charged me $80, yes
80 freaking dollars for delivery!

Check my edit on the RES

MrBean · Post by **MrBean** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:15

That's because you chose a Courier

There is an economy option to SA, trust me, I have used them a lot.

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:23

MrBean wrote:That's because you chose a Courier There is an economy option to SA, trust me, I have used them a lot.

OK, i'll add everything to my cart and check again!

MrBean · Post by **MrBean** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:44

Keep me posted! I will check your res linkie quick.....brb

Ok, go for this one instead, will be much stronger, and last longer. Very well made unit.

Not so nice looking as perspex units, but you won't see it anyway, neither will it jump a leak on you soon

WiK1d · Post by **WiK1d** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:51

So everything i order from DD must be 3/8"?

MrBean · Post by **MrBean** » 28 Dec 2005, 21:56